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Old 11-27-2008, 03:39 PM
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Default First Gen Camaro Subframe Feedback...

Looking to get some feedback from guys who have build multiple cars and used multiple types from DSE, Speettech, AM etc.....

We are doing a 69 this winter and were steering towards the Speedtech but he wanted some options........also wanted to know why the DSE is so much more, what makes it so much better.

He narrowed it down to the Speedtech, the DSE (if justified), the AM and the Scotts Hot Rod one....

Thoughts from the guys who have used more then one brand ?
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Old 11-27-2008, 04:18 PM
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Had stock with DSE speed 3 kit, had Wayne Due, had new DSE sub. The new DSE sub was far and away better. Handled great and could run a 10" tire with the car ride height low. LS7 with no clearance issues for headers.

I'm biased but I feel the DSE new sub is a great piece and well worth the money. If you want to see pictures of the frame and my car go to DSE and look at previous projects.

Price is a consideration, but I've always went with quality, well self engineered, and customer service. Also all my camaros that I've sold has sold for top dollar because of the quality of the parts they were built with. DSE means alot at resale.

Good luck.

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Used all mentioned, have all mentioned in projects in the shop right now, and sell all mentioned.

Speedtech is a screamin deal, especially right now. DSE and Art Morrison are at the top of the heap in excellent geometry.
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Old 11-27-2008, 04:24 PM
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Used all mentioned, have all mentioned in projects in the shop right now, and sell all mentioned.

Speedtech is a screamin deal, especially right now. DSE and Art Morrison are at the top of the heap in excellent geometry.
So what are the selling points of each one over the other ? Why is a DSE or AM so much better or liked ?
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it really depends on what you clients need are... if he wants performance with the BEST geometry then jakes rod shop sub is that...but unfortunatly hes not a big rich company so his name doesent get out much.
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What are the plans for the build? If it is an LSx then I would encourage you to take a close look at the AME. You can use the stock F body oil pan and accessory drives. The savings will more than offset the small additional cost of the AME over the lowest cost subrame option while delivering superior geometry and performance. You can also use C5 brakes and abuttments for around $500 to gain additional savings. Simply comparing the cost of the subframe without considering its effect on the total cost of the build makes no sense to me.

Customer service at AME is also second to none. I can send a PM to the engineer who designed it and have a response within hours. That sort of access is hard to come by or place a price on.

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Old 11-28-2008, 02:16 AM
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it really depends on what you clients need are... if he wants performance with the BEST geometry then jakes rod shop sub is that...but unfortunatly hes not a big rich company so his name doesent get out much.
It does look nice http://www.jakesrodshop.com/products.html

Lets hear what makes it the best?? Are there many out on the street, reliability, proven testing, track proven handling, have many people put hard miles on them yet? (not being negative just curious)

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