Is this a real Z/28 and what is it worth?

[matchframe]

My neighbor across the street has had this Camaro since he was in High School in the early '70s. He is the second owner of the Camaro. He is now retired and traveling the country by RV and leased his house to another family. When the owner of the Camaro moved in several years ago, he said it was a real Z/28, and that he will restore it someday. Since the owner is traveling around, I am going to try to buy this from him just so it will stop rotting in his yard. I already have three projects I am working on now, I really don't have the space or resources to start another project...... But I would love to build another first gen Camaro to pound the pavement with. If interested in my current projects check out my website: www.bigdoggarage.com


First, is this a real Z/28? It has everything a Z has except a cowl hood and rear spoiler. It has a small block (owner claims it is the original 302) with headers and holley carb with mechanical secondaries.

Second, what is it worth in this condition? I has a lot of rust and needs both rear quarter panels, trunk lid and trunk floor pan. That is just what I found in the few minutes I had to look at it up close.

Here are a few pic, tell me what you think. Thanks!!









Snake skin

[NAPA 68]

Most cars were a flat hood and many early cars had no rear spoiler. I like the patina to verify it's originality. I like the endura front bumper and the deluxe interior! I do question how bad the car is. The cowl could very well be rotted out given the way everything else looks.

$5000? If it's the original drivetrain. Just my opinion though.

Tim

[Steve68]

Been there seen it happen!!!


$5000K or lower, the value there when fully restored!


Friend at work was going to sell me his 69 for $1500, it was a real Z missing the motor, some on painted it a ugly yellow and debaged it!! his wife was mad at hime for having 3 airplanes in pieces in there backyard, so she called her friend and he came down and got it,!!!! I'm still mad about that one!

[waynieZ]

Have you seen the cowl tag? Does it have 4 leafs on the springs?

[DETON8R]

Check the rear end, I'm pretty sure that all Z28's had a 12 bolt. And I've seen a tag on the rear end before that gave a date code on some 1969's.

[Track Junky]

I thought the blocks had DZ codes and the last four digits on the motor matched the VIN........

Love the enduro bumper, never seen an original with one on it. Love the snake skin too, not sure that was original though, lol.

If that thing is a true matching numbers Z28 value would be in the eye of the beholder. If you pick that up for $5000 and it was real, I would say good deal as long as the matching numbers motor was in it.

I know my car had its build sheet in a sealed clear plastic envelope taped to the top of the fuel tank. I think the other areas for build sheets were in the headliner above the passenger seat or in the visor.

If its real, good luck!!

[killer67]

If it is a Z/28 and you can verify from the plate that rear axle, tranny, and engine are matching, get it! Make an offer

[DETON8R]

What is the red line on the Tach? I thought Plane-Jane small blocks with a Tach had a lower red line than the SS and Z-28 optioned models. I've heard that the 67's and 68's didn't necessarily have tach's at all when the 302 was an option, I don't know much about the 69's (whether the Tach was a option package when a 302 was ordered) but I'm fairly certain that if a 302 was installed the red line was higher for that option package than the red line for a standard V8 optioned Camaro.

[matchframe]

Originally Posted by DETON8R

What is the red line on the Tach? I thought Plane-Jane small blocks with a Tach had a lower red line than the SS and Z-28 optioned models. I've heard that the 67's and 68's didn't necessarily have tach's at all when the 302 was an option, I don't know much about the 69's (whether the Tach was a option package when a 302 was ordered) but I'm fairly certain that if a 302 was installed the red line was higher for that option package than the red line for a standard V8 optioned Camaro.

It has an 8,000 RPM tach with a 6,000 RPM redline. The yellow line starts around 5,500 RPM on the tach.

[TT302Z28]

Most all had:

4 piston front disc brakes
4 leaf rear springs only found on COPO and Z/28
had to be a 4 speed
Did not have to have the D80 Spoiler
Had to have a 12 bolt and most got 3:73 posi
Had to have the 302
Check the fuel line. 3/8 or 5/16
Never A/C
Very few with P.S.
I believe there were some unique exhaust hanger locations for Z's and SS models.

With this much weathering, if someone faked it they did it before it was for profit. I'd give him $5k but know your still going to drop $25k to restore it.