Greg, I disagree with you on this one. Lat-G is still an awesome place to hang out. First and foremost, we are a family. What some of us fail to realize or haven't given much thought to, is that families do have fights from time to time. I don't think because an argument here or a disagreement there makes this a bad or not fun place to hang out. Tell me which one of us haven't physically or verbally had a fight with a biological family member? But, at the end of the day you were still family and loved him or her just as much if not more. Lastly, we are a group of guys (and girls) from different walks of life...different ages, ethnic backgrounds, different attitudes, different beliefs, different religious preferences, etc. With that in mind we are not going to always agree. But, until I log in daily and see a bunch of hissy fits and complaints, I would not say this is not a fun place to hang around. The advice and guidance I've gotten on here and the many friends I've made on here far outweigh the 2-3 fights per year. I'm mean, friends like Ron in So Cal, John Sevilla, Carl Cassanova make it all worth it. Hell, I even talked to Phil Gerber at Roadster Shop just yesterday for some advice and he was more than willing to be helpful. Phil agreed to do a very small job for me that I'm pretty sure he's far too busy to do. But, he said send him what I needed done and he would could squeeze me in. So, if that ain't a family for you...I don't know what is.