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Old 02-20-2014, 10:19 AM
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Default FI : more gains with cams or with heads?

I've searched to no avail. even on ls1tech...

Most searches come up with head AND cam not heads OR cam.

I have a lq9 and my friend is giving my his Procharger d1sc for free! I just have to have it rebuilt.

My question is, will I see more gain more from just a FI cam and ls6 mani or with ported l92 heads and l76 manifold at 8-9 psi?

I understand the cost difference is significant.

If the cam route is better, I'll port the stock heads.

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Old 02-20-2014, 05:39 PM
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Too many variables to say honestly. However, I would go with the cam change. You're forcing air into the engine while under boost versus trying to suck it in running N/A. Changing how long the valves stay open to compliment the supercharger would be a better route in my mind. That and your stock heads are good to begin with. Porting them later is a solid and easy option that will only compliment the cam more.
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Old 02-21-2014, 11:31 AM
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Too many variables to say honestly. However, I would go with the cam change. You're forcing air into the engine while under boost versus trying to suck it in running N/A. Changing how long the valves stay open to compliment the supercharger would be a better route in my mind. That and your stock heads are good to begin with. Porting them later is a solid and easy option that will only compliment the cam more.
I don't see the variables...you're basically increasing the airflow either through the heads and intake (since If I go L92, I have to go L76 mani) or through a cam through the stock Lq9 heads.

I guess one variable would be the spec of the cam. Let's say an aggressive FI cam that's streetable. It won't ever see the track as it will be a weekend cruiser.

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Old 02-21-2014, 12:32 PM
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What are your horsepower goals? You can make a lot of power with a boosted motor with stock cam and heads.
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Old 02-21-2014, 02:00 PM
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What are your horsepower goals? You can make a lot of power with a boosted motor with stock cam and heads.
I'd like to hit 550rwhp on 91 octane and will never see the track so I'll be on street tires.
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That's an easy goal to hit. I'd go cam change with supporting mods like intercooler, headers, and full exhaust and then call it done. The cam will help give it good sound which I think is important to the overall goal/attitude of a good street cruiser. It will also help you target where you want the power to an extent as well.

For reference, a stock C5 Z06 with nothing more than headers and high flow cats into the stock Ti exhaust made 540 rwhp with Pro-Charger's Stage 2 system. The Stage 2 system utilized larger intercoolers, better air intake, and slightly higher psi than a "normal" C5 kit. Given the packaging restraints on a car like the C5, I see no reason you couldn't get good intercoolers and a clean free flowing air intake into the head unit itself on a classic car with an open engine bay. Your 317 heads are basically lower compression LS6 heads.
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Old 02-21-2014, 03:46 PM
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I'd like to hit 550rwhp on 91 octane and will never see the track so I'll be on street tires.
I talked with ECS about supercharging my ls2. They said 550 rwhp was very doable on a completely stock motor. If you have the cash I do a cam.
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Both Cnc heads and new cam..

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i am very late to this party but if it is cam OR heads get the cam and do the springs.

The 317 heads work pretty good with FI.

google/youtube stock48 nova. A stock lq9 with a cam and a newer s476 turbo went 8.39@160+ in a Nova on pump e85 and a truck intake manifold.

He is pushing that motor hard but those numbers suggest he is pushing the 1000hp threshold.

So how much power did you want to make?
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