Carbon ceramic brakes

[CamaroAJ]

Wasn’t there a thread on here where Mark said unless you have ABS carbon rotors are not a good idea because they are like an on off switch out of no where when they get to temp?

Looking at brakes for my car and was thinking about picking up a set and have been searching for negatives other than the cost or replacement rotors. I can pick up a set of steel rotors for track days though. I’m planning on C5Z stand alone ABS, but I’m not 100% yet if I’m going to do it.

[Build-It-Break-it]

page 16 post number 154 talks about what your looking for on jackass 2.0.

https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthr...brakes&page=16

I avoided the carbon brakes because of Mark warning about them if you don't have abs. It's not mentioned in the above post by Mark himself but I also do remember Mark speaking about it but can't remember which build.

[JKnight]

I think Mario (Doom) struggled with them as well, but it may have been something other than the fact they were ceramics. I don’t believe he did ABS either. Hopefully he’s been able to put some miles on the car and provide some insights.

[CamaroAJ]

Originally Posted by Build-It-Break-it

page 16 post number 154 talks about what your looking for on jackass 2.0.

https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthr...brakes&page=16

I avoided the carbon brakes because of Mark warning about them if you don't have abs. It's not mentioned in the above post by Mark himself but I also do remember Mark speaking about it but can't remember which build.

I thought it was in that thread too, but didn’t see it. I seem to remember someone having an off track experience when they got hot and locked up into a corner out of no where.

Originally Posted by JKnight

I think Mario (Doom) struggled with them as well, but it may have been something other than the fact they were ceramics. I don’t believe he did ABS either. Hopefully he’s been able to put some miles on the car and provide some insights.

Hopefully someone with some track experience with them will chime in.

[Build-It-Break-it]

Here's a great little write up from Vorshlag about the carbon brakes. It's post #8. I think they made me also change my mind. I hope this one helps you decide. They give so many good reasons not to use Carbon Brakes.

https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=52992

[CamaroAJ]

Originally Posted by Build-It-Break-it

Here's a great little write up from Vorshlag about the carbon brakes. It's post #8. I think they made me also change my mind. I hope this one helps you decide. They give so many good reasons not to use Carbon Brakes.

https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=52992

Thank you, that’s a good read. So at this point what I’m thinking is depending on the deal I can find on Baer Brakes I’ll go with those. If it’s not much more than the carbon brakes I’ll get them. If it’s considerably more I’ll go with the carbon brakes and get iron rotors when the car gets tracked. There is a company selling brand new front and back ZR1 calipers, pads, and iron rotors for $5k though which I think is about the same price as Baer. In any case I won’t run carbon brakes on the track.

[DOOM]

Originally Posted by JKnight

I think Mario (Doom) struggled with them as well, but it may have been something other than the fact they were ceramics. I don’t believe he did ABS either. Hopefully he’s been able to put some miles on the car and provide some insights.

One of the biggest mistakes I made . It's been a constant battle that I'm not going to win. I can tell you one thing for sure they DO NOT work with manual master cylinder . I contacted Brembo to ask if there was anything I could do . And the answer was no. I'm going to remove the C6 ZR1 calipers and rotors over the winter and run a new setup. I wanna stay with Brembo hopefully they have something that will work with my current setup will see . If you wanna give me a call shoot me a PM I'll send you my number.

[CamaroAJ]

Originally Posted by DOOM

One of the biggest mistakes I made . It's been a constant battle that I'm not going to win. I can tell you one thing for sure they DO NOT work with manual master cylinder . I contacted Brembo to ask if there was anything I could do . And the answer was no. I'm going to remove the C6 ZR1 calipers and rotors over the winter and run a new setup. I wanna stay with Brembo hopefully they have something that will work with my current setup will see . If you wanna give me a call shoot me a PM I'll send you my number.

If the master and pedal setup was your problem I should be ok. I'm using C6 pedals, ZR1 booster, and the ZR1 master cylinder. In the Jackass 2.0 link a few posts up Mark explained they are specific for the ZR1 brakes and gave some part numbers.

[DOOM]

Originally Posted by CamaroAJ

If the master and pedal setup was your problem I should be ok. I'm using C6 pedals, ZR1 booster, and the ZR1 master cylinder. In the Jackass 2.0 link a few posts up Mark explained they are specific for the ZR1 brakes and gave some part numbers.

My setup is manual no booster.

[JON Q]

Originally Posted by CamaroAJ

Wasn’t there a thread on here where Mark said unless you have ABS carbon rotors are not a good idea because they are like an on off switch out of no where when they get to temp?

Looking at brakes for my car and was thinking about picking up a set and have been searching for negatives other than the cost or replacement rotors. I can pick up a set of steel rotors for track days though. I’m planning on C5Z stand alone ABS, but I’m not 100% yet if I’m going to do it.

The info is on page 67 on the Jackass build where it is mentioned.
I will be running the same setup that Mark did on my 69 Camaro. I have Jackass's LS9 engine and I have ZR1 carbon ceramic brakes. You will need mono block wheels to clear the massive calipers from the ZR1.