Control arms/coil overs - any difference?

[Teetoe_Jones]

Originally Posted by Serpa69

I did DSE uppers and lowers with Gulstrand Mod(Thought they looked cool and I like the bushings) Stock spindles Timken bearings (my car does not got 200MPH so I don’t care about sealed corvette bearings really, what the is the point of ATS spindles???? a ton of money) .

They could be compared to what the DSE hydroformed frame is able to put down. The G mod is an improvement over stock, but the AFX spindle goes well above and beyond what the G mod can do by itself. We correct bumpsteer, give a much more aggressive camber curve, shed unsprung weight, increase strength, add larger wheel bearings with WSS, etc. The benefits are worth the price as our spindle by itself has geometry figures that exceed the DSE frame. We have proven our design countless times in a variety of venues.

Tyler

[XLexusTech]

Originally Posted by Teetoe_Jones

They could be compared to what the DSE hydroformed frame is able to put down. The G mod is an improvement over stock, but the AFX spindle goes well above and beyond what the G mod can do by itself. We correct bumpsteer, give a much more aggressive camber curve, shed unsprung weight, increase strength, add larger wheel bearings with WSS, etc. The benefits are worth the price as our spindle by itself has geometry figures that exceed the DSE frame. We have proven our design countless times in a variety of venues.

Tyler

Yep what he said!

Tyler what is the wait like for tall spindles these days I know they have been fluig out the door but I was goig to wait until things normilised a bit (gen 1 F body)

[mrr1999]

Thanks Tyler. What is the difference in performance using the AFX spindles with the G mod vs without the G mod?

[GM Muscle]

i would talk to frank at prodigy. he has some good info on the coilover vs conventional battle.. i went with speedtech uppers and lowers. circle track 650lb springs with adjustable cups and qa1 shocks..

[dhutton]

Originally Posted by mrr1999

What is the difference in performance using the AFX spindles with the G mod vs without the G mod?

The G mod is not recommended for use with the tall version of the AFX spindle.

Don

[Serpa69]

I did the Gulstrand mod with DSE uppers. I really cant justify the cost of ATS spindles. Maybe you all can. With the car lowered down the way it is there really is no noticeable bump steer. Again they are really nice to look at and a really nice product but I would race any one with a stock arm and a ATS tall spindle all day. There are many ways to skin a cat, I just preferred the tubular arm/gmod over a tall spindle. I am curious what the weight difference is between a stock spindle with aluminum hubs and a tall ATS spindle. Also I am sure that you have proven the quality of your product I have no doubt that it is great, but since you brought it up, I would like to see a head to head against a stock frame ATS setup vs. a DSE frame equipped car. Maybe one lap vs Blue bomber

I am kind of a bang for the buck Guy that buys parts as I can afford them. So if it doesnt have a big bang I dont buy it.

[redfire69]

Originally Posted by Serpa69

I did DSE uppers and lowers with Gulstrand Mod(Thought they looked cool and I like the bushings) Stock spindles Timken bearings (my car does not got 200MPH so I don’t care about sealed corvette bearings really, what the is the point of ATS spindles???? a ton of money) C5 brakes with a speed tech bracket kit and a QA1 coilover I have adjusted them several times (very easy) mostly because the springs have settled. I think the car works great I do not have half the money most people do on these sites. Honestly if I was going to dump any more money than what I have currently, I would have purchased a total after market frame/suspension set up. I go to several open track days and the only thing I do is set the tire pressure and turn up the compression and rebound knobs and get to work. That is just my two cents. I will post a picture of the tire at full lock so you can see how much camber you get with this set up. It blew my mind when I saw it after the changes. It also made a big improvement in how much confidence I have with the car now.

Any issues installing the QA1 coilovers with the DSE upper and lowers? I like the idea of coilovers with DSEs on a stock SF w/out cutting it up.

[Serpa69]

The only issue I had was the adjustment on the springs. It is not hard, but you really should spend the 25 bucks and get the roller bearings. Other than that I really like the adjustability. There are so many adjustments that you can go from rock solid to Eldorado smooth with a turn of a knob.
I did a frame re weld and smooth job and I think it works pretty good. It works for me anyway

[mrr1999]

Thanks, Serpa. What made you use the DSE uppers over, say Speed tech, etc?

[Serpa69]

I held them in my hand and said "these are bad a$$"