whats the cost of your build ????

[tones2SS]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

Steve -- Truer words have never been spoken!

Italian bookeeping (3 Sets of books):

#1 - Actual costs

#2 - What you tell the wife

#3 - What you report to the government

lolllllllllllllll...............
Very true Greg!!

[Vegas69]

Good one Greg.... I was out golfing with a good buddy yesterday. He said to me,"I'm hoping my accountant can get me down to .......net this year". I said, "If yours can't, mine can." I won't go there, but I know a bunch of guys that do.

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by HRBS

Relax. I was being sarcastic.

I didn't take it wrong... was explaining incase someone else looked at the same thing - once you mentioned it... and thought maybe I was (I am) an idiot..

Not to jack the thread... but the skates are hanging in a "snare" built with stainless steel rope - (working load exceeds 1000 #'s) and the "snare" gathers them all up - when lifts - using an electric lifting winch... which is hung on thick walled tubing welded to the I beam - and gusseted with a properly notched tube running down at a 45*....

It actually works really slick - because those skates are bulky AND heavy - and are a complete nuisance when not in use. So this was my way of using space (narrow) that wasn't good for anything else really - and had the height to make sure you have head clearance.

I didn't add my usual ROFL face -- which I should have.

[6spdcamaro]

Originally Posted by elitecustombody

only if he does all the labor and get parts at wholesale prices and the car still won't stack up to the high end builds,don't get me wrong, it can be very nice,but to have impressive car with quality components can set you back alot more than $50k,set of nice wheels can cost $6-8k,turbo motor,clutch,tranny can cost well over $30k,suspension $10k and we still have body, paint, interior, lighting, audio and little de
tails that can make a hell of a difference and can cost thousands, so depending on what your vision is, your quality standards and plans for the car,the outcome may not be as impressive as some examples here

Im not saying 150,00's hard to spend, but if you be very careful you can keep the cost down. CCW classics 18's with 265 and 315 mounted and balanced shipped for under 3000 as apposed to 6-8,000 for other wheels. CCW's are still very nice. You could get a used ls1/ 6-speed for around 4 thousand basically turn key, with all accessories wiring harness, coil packs, oil-pan as opposed to spending 15/16,000 on that all brand new. The engine will only be brand new until you start it so you might as well save the money. Suspension can be vastly improved while still maintaining a "low" budget. A tvs kit with a-frames and subframe connectors, about 3000 with a steering box. To build a 10/10 car will cost you twice as much as a 9/10 car because that last bit of perfection is so much harder to get. If you want the best of the best,you have to pay for it, but you can still vastly improve the handling and drivability of the car without blowing 100,000 on it. Making the budgets easy, sticking to its the hard part.

[GregWeld]

Ken --

Well said. And right on.

It just depends on what you want.

Most of the builds on here - can kick some serious butt in a number of venues AND still win trophies at the better car shows... and THAT is where it gets expensive in a hurry.

Mary and David Pozzi's car will swamp most PT cars on this site in an Auto X - uses leaf spring suspension and a "crate" (I think she said) 383 motor - and looks great and handles better....

My point being - just "depends" how you want to go....

[chr2002ca]

Every single stinkin' dollar I ever coughed up to obtain, build, license, and drive my pro-touring '69 Camaro are detailed on my site, down to the last nut, bolt, and piece of sandpaper:

http://www.69camaroproject.com/project_details.htm

Of course, I could have saved money here and there, but I was a newbie at the time and I'm not perfect.

[HRBS]

Originally Posted by chr2002ca

http://www.69camaroproject.com/project_details.htm

That is the most incredible documentation I've ever seen.
Want a job ?
Nice work !

[chr2002ca]

Thanks! The website took almost as freakin long as the car. Just wanted to pass along real details to the next newbie like me.

[96z28ss]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

Go to the "for sale" section here in the forums --- you just missed 3 or 4 cars that were REAL REAL nice cars - DONE - for way under 100 grand... and had all the right stuff.

With the economy the way it has been - there have been some fire sales... so if you are looking for a done project - check the for sale sections here and over at Pro-touring.com.

As you can see - there's just no way to tell you what something like this will cost - without a full description of exactly what parts you're wanting to use.. what your base car is - and it's condition. (I just checked in... to see what condition my condition is in.... ).

I worked for a year and a half with a buddy that had NO LIMIT... he just knew exactly what the end result was to be. He did NOT want a car that had to have any bodywork or paint... but EVERYTHING ELSE was to be replaced. So a new Art Morrison frame w/Ford 9" - LS2 motor - Tremec 6 speed - Wilwood brakes - Budnik wheels - full new interior (stock appearing) - all new wiring - power windows - power door locks - new steering column and wheel - new stereo and speakers - Vintage Air - Billet specialties Tru Trac serpentine belt - new SS fuel tank w/internal pump - SS brake and fuel lines - new crossflow radiator and core support - new HID headlights - new driveline - new fiberglass inner wheel wells - SS exhaust "kit" - STOCK headers slicked and porcelianized - new windshield wiper system - every square inch of interior covered with Dynamat - including trunk - new factory appearing gauges . Cost of base 55 chevy 2 door post car - $25K - fuel to fetch it - 1 grand - total parts INCLUDING the cost of the base car and fuel - $99,700

NOW FOR LABOR (in this case FREE)

Body was removed from stock frame and mounted on my rotisserie - gutted - floor and trunk pan mods - new tunnel for tranny - firewall slicked and painted - Chassis lines and electrical run and SS exhaust with trick hangers built - blown apart and powder coated then reassembled. Modify rear floors (raised) - modify trunk pan - built mount for E brake handle - Body undercarriage scraped and cleaned - painted with POR 15 - and undercoated - Body required ZERO repair or paint except the firewall and inner fender wells - cover in Dyanmat - install motor and trans in chassis - drop body - install core support - mount reservoirs - scribe and cut inner fender wells - remove for paint - re-install - complete new wiring - dye headliner - rebuild door hinges - drill for door looms - rebuild windows (rear) - install new power windows - rebuild wing window regulators - install power door locks - install all dash items and trim - install custom hoses for A/C and heat - build custom closeout for trans shifter - build custom mount for DBW throttle - rebuild clutch and brake pedals - custom fabricate hydraulic clutch reservoir mount - modify steering column mount in firewall.... and a whole host of little things which I can't even remember now... my point -- MOST of these mods done with the body in white (ie not finished) required many assemble/disassemble/reassemble check for fit/modify/reassemble with proper hardware (polished SS)..... So the amount of LABOR in a build like this is double or triple the amount of time that would be used to just "R&R" a stock part. AND THIS IS NOT A FANCY BUILD!! It's a very nice modified STREET hot rod. I have EASILY 1000 hours in this build with all the cleaning - and assembly / reassembly. Wiring alone took two people two full days (long days) to finish. Here's the deal on that - It's a 1955 --- with everything new - we get to the bulbs in the turn signal/parking lamps... and I end up rebuilding them with new receptacles.... no way you're going to do all this and leave stupid little stuff like that go "untouched"... but it takes LABOR.... and more little "un budgeted" parts and time to find and fetch said parts....

So - If I was keeping track of all our labor - and charging for it @ $45 an hour - you'd add $45 GRAND to the parts bill - and we'd be at $145,000 "so far" ---- and that is with NO PAINT OR BODYWORK....

Thus my "$150,000" real money - real life - guesstimate. You'd have a real nice - nothing fancy - very squared away car - that wouldn't win ANY trophies... but you could drive without fear and enjoy the heck out of it.

FIRST PIC -- AS bought -- second pic -- "near" being done...

The car would probably be done by now if you weren't on here so much!!

[GregWeld]

Being retired has its perks...