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Old 03-31-2010, 11:03 AM
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Is there anyway he could have prevented this? It didn't sound like he got out of it when he dipped his tired in the grass... I'm not sure if he knew his tire was on the grass or not. Do you get out of it and try to get back on track? Or do you continue on the run off area? Just not sure how to handle a situation like this...
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Old 03-31-2010, 11:39 AM
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Is there anyway he could have prevented this? It didn't sound like he got out of it when he dipped his tired in the grass... I'm not sure if he knew his tire was on the grass or not. Do you get out of it and try to get back on track? Or do you continue on the run off area? Just not sure how to handle a situation like this...

It all depends, I would try and stabilize the throttle. But once it starts to slide, all bets are off. I lost traction accelerating out of a corner and instead of easing off the go pedal I tried to ride it until I caught traction. Big mistake, the car snapped when I left off.
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Old 03-31-2010, 11:42 AM
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Is there anyway he could have prevented this? It didn't sound like he got out of it when he dipped his tired in the grass... I'm not sure if he knew his tire was on the grass or not. Do you get out of it and try to get back on track? Or do you continue on the run off area? Just not sure how to handle a situation like this...
Its kind of hard to say, from my understanding of vehicle dynamics if you're experiencing oversteer you need to load the car's weight over the front enough to optimize steering, by lifting off the gas, or braking a bit, as soon as you have enough weight transfer, steer out and apply more throttle as you straighten up. I learned all of this at a driving school, and only practiced at low speeds, so I'm sure saving the car here could be a bit more nuanced. Maybe someone else will chime in.

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Old 03-31-2010, 11:42 AM
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Is there anyway he could have prevented this? It didn't sound like he got out of it when he dipped his tired in the grass... I'm not sure if he knew his tire was on the grass or not. Do you get out of it and try to get back on track? Or do you continue on the run off area? Just not sure how to handle a situation like this...
(I'm a track novice)
Always easy to back seat drive... but technically your never really supposed to 'snap' back on the track, but I don't think he really does that? Should he have kept going off track causing a spin? Maybe because clearly what he did, did not work. It seems like he did nothing to turn left to avoid the barrier but damn it was all so quick. I'd guess he was split second thinking mellow don't spin out oh oh barrier...
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Can you post a different form of the pic? I cant see it on my PC.

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It did sound like a wall he hit, but that's a rumble strip on the exit of the corner...
Thanks Jody for the clarification...I knew I heard something.
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http://lifesgoodracing.com/index.php
Thats the racing team mentioned at the end of the video. Too bad, it looked like a very nice car
Anyone see this?

http://lifesgoodracing.com/gallery/78TransAm/index.php
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Old 03-31-2010, 01:40 PM
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Is there anyway he could have prevented this? It didn't sound like he got out of it when he dipped his tired in the grass... I'm not sure if he knew his tire was on the grass or not. Do you get out of it and try to get back on track? Or do you continue on the run off area? Just not sure how to handle a situation like this...
Easily. For one he had way too much confidence coming into the second turn into the vid, for two, he was off line. Should have slowed. His pucker factor should have happened just before that turn and braked. Would have been fine and it would have slowed his time. Instead he went balls out throttle trying to get back onto the track.

Maintenance throttle can go a long way as well and respect for power, seems the driver was fond of the right pedal.
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Old 03-31-2010, 01:44 PM
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In fact, if you watch the video and listen to the throttle, his tires started speaking to him, screaming for help before the apex of the turn, but instead of listening to them, he stayed in the throttle rather than easing out or applying a small amount of brake. You can hear the tires hopping when his right foot gets off the pedal and back on again and again. That car told him what was going to happen, he wasn't listening sadly.

That said, **** happens at the track. Seems like he was outdriving the tires, which many of us are guilty of. I prefer to outdrive my tires where there are no ditches, walls and plenty of run off.
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It all depends, I would try and stabilize the throttle. But once it starts to slide, all bets are off. I lost traction accelerating out of a corner and instead of easing off the go pedal I tried to ride it until I caught traction. Big mistake, the car snapped when I left off.
You can clearly hear his throttle blipping as the tires give way, had he let off just a tiny bit and braked a bit, pucker factor over and turn would have been fine. With a properly setup pony car its amazing how much steering you actually do with your right foot.
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