Yet another 2nd Gen Camaro - Project/update

[gerno]

I thought I'd take a little time and bring my build thread back from the dead. I've finally started to make additional updates to the car. I think I have a pretty solid plan in place but I also have a really tight deadline. I need to have the car back together and and ready for COTA at the beginning of Aug. Hopefully I make it.


I have 2 main goals with the updates. 1 - optimize the car as best I can with the current frame and most of the hardware. 2 - Make the car safer for high speed tracks. As possible I'm also going to try to make it look better as well.


Here are the changes I've planned.

Suspension

Seam weld/stifffen the factory frame
Revise UCA/LCA mounts for better geometry
New UCA’s
New ball joints
New front sway bar
Add rear sway bar
Change panhard mounts on rear
Revalve current shocks
Add adjustable rear trailing arm mount

Safety
Add a full roll cage
Add fire suppression system
Mount passenger side race seat

Misc

Move stuff around as possible to achieve better weight balance
New/stiffer trans mount and TA mount
Smooth/Clean firewall
Add Dual brake masters with pivot
Optimize pedal layout for heel toe shifting - because I suck at it
Replace factory heater with compact vintage air unit
Clean up the birds nest of wiring I have
If there’s time

Move alternator to lower passenger side (if there’s time)
Flare front fenders for 315 tires. (may drive with some modified junk fenders for a while if needed)
Make custom grill
Move turn signals to headlights and change current lights to brake ducts.
Make front splitter or extend current factory replacement.

So far all I’ve really done is destroy the car. Its now torn down and I’ve been focused on cleaning. Today I’ll be ordering up the tubing for a cage but that’s on hold until I get the frame back in place

[carbuff]

I love it. Drivable car to stripped subframe in what, 48 hours?

I'd love to offer up TOW as a COTA backup plan, but I couldn't let you get an invite in my car!

[gerno]

Originally Posted by carbuff

I love it. Drivable car to stripped subframe in what, 48 hours?

I'd love to offer up TOW as a COTA backup plan, but I couldn't let you get an invite in my car!

Yea, its a bit depressing to think about but hopefully I get it done and can compete. I do have 5 weeks of vaca available at work but not sure they'd like me to take it all at the same time.

[syborg tt]

Here are some of my thoughts that may help you speed things up as your time line is very short.

Add a full roll cage

-- Make sure you leave enough room so you can add padding so you can drive the car on the street if you want to. I would hate to have you get hurt driving the car without a helmet and smack your head on the cage.

Smooth/Clean firewall

-- buy the DSE firewall patch panel.

Optimize pedal layout for heel toe shifting - because I suck at it

-- don't we all suck at it

Flare front fenders for 315 tires.

Look at what D&Z and Dutch boys did with there 2nd gen as it works so well

Move turn signals to headlights and change current lights to brake ducts.

JIC you are interested I have a standard camaro header that I had the RS housing cut into if you are interested in it. You can then move the indicators up there or use them for brake ducts

Make front splitter or extend current factory replacement.

This could kill two birds with one stone. Extend it and then add your brake ducts into the splitter.

So far all I’ve really done is destroy the car. Its now torn down and I’ve been focused on cleaning. Today I’ll be ordering up the tubing for a cage but that’s on hold until I get the frame back in place

Destroy - Nahhhh your just having fun. Heck I took my 70 apart last weekend as it needs more heat and sound deadening.

ps DEI sells a lite weight heat insulation for under the carpet.

[gerno]

Marty - All good advise. Thank you for the comments

Roll cage will certainly have some padding on it. Current Roll bar does already though the cage will have the SFI padding. Luckily Slennings has done an awesome job with his cage and its the same layout I was thinking. Hopefully I can get close to the quality of work he's done

Dutch boys car is certainly a car I am looking at for ideas. I'll have to check out the D&Z car too

I am interested in the header you have. Can you PM a pic and price for it?

[syborg tt]

So did you see the seats Steve (Sleenning) is putting in his car. I no longer like him as I really want to put those seats in my car. However I think I am going to build another car instead.

pm sent and here is a link http://www.garagescene.net/index.php?/category/489

Originally Posted by gerno

Marty - All good advise. Thank you for the comments

Roll cage will certainly have some padding on it. Current Roll bar does already though the cage will have the SFI padding. Luckily Slennings has done an awesome job with his cage and its the same layout I was thinking. Hopefully I can get close to the quality of work he's done

Dutch boys car is certainly a car I am looking at for ideas. I'll have to check out the D&Z car too

I am interested in the header you have. Can you PM a pic and price for it?

[slenning]

Originally Posted by gerno

Marty - All good advise. Thank you for the comments

Roll cage will certainly have some padding on it. Current Roll bar does already though the cage will have the SFI padding. Luckily Slennings has done an awesome job with his cage and its the same layout I was thinking. Hopefully I can get close to the quality of work he's done

Dutch boys car is certainly a car I am looking at for ideas. I'll have to check out the D&Z car too

I am interested in the header you have. Can you PM a pic and price for it?

Hey Steve this is awesome!! Way to dive into the deep end.

Thanks for the comments on my cage, that was my first attempt at doing one and am pretty happy with the way it turned out. If there's anything I can help you out with, specific pics, measurements etc. just let me know. I'd be glad to help with what limited knowledge I have LOL

PS Marty sure seems to be upset about my seats

[syborg tt]

Yes I am


Marty-MJ

[glassman]

Originally Posted by syborg tt

Yes I am


Marty-MJ

You'll forget all about seats once your in your Cayman seat. Either the LWB's or not, you'll be more spoiled....

Steve, way kool to see this. I pretty much just wrapped up a 9 month redo with mine, update/project progress pending.....

On the 315's, i don't know what DZ did, but Dutch Boys (Paul) left em out, track ok, but rain and road not so sure. I'm going from a 275 to a 295 or 305 and may do the Speed Tech inner tubz.....And still may go the Speed Tech sub.Right now the car is pretty righteous cept my shock/spring balance issues i'm having, Dr Ron is on it.....

Looking forward to seeing your progress......Cheers for now

[GregWeld]

Quit typing and pick up a tool dude!



Looks good Steve! But I think it needs to be broken down even further.