I bought a major Pro-Touring project from a high school, WOW what were they thinking! - Page 2 - Lateral-g Forums

Vegas69 · #11 08-20-2016, 01:40 PM

I'm with these guys, DSE stuff is top notch in the industry. From reputation to performance. I like the long term support aspect as well. I had one of the first 100 frames in my 69. It was easily one of my favorite aspects of that car.

Take it from a guy that built one of these from scratch. It's addicting and the snow ball gets big quick.

I would opt for an ls or lt and the t56. The engine is just to antiquated for a modern pro touring car. I wouldn't put that tko600 in your tractor.

Good luck with it.

DannyZ · #12 08-20-2016, 03:43 PM

Thanks Todd,

Yes the TKO600 isn't going in to this build, going with a new T56. And I agree on the engine LT4 for sure! I guess since I'm going all in, if the FastTrack is any better then a separate DSENfront and rear setup jointed together?

Rod P · #13 08-20-2016, 05:31 PM

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if the DSE setup is a 8.5 would the FastTrack frame be a 10? If that was the case I might, but if the DSE is a 9.5 maybe not. I'm just looking for a balance between the two ie engine/chassis setups.

there both 10's and are only as good as the assisting components, what i mean is dont cheap out on shocks, tires, brakes, power steering components, coolers, seats, tuning, and so on

DannyZ · #14 08-20-2016, 07:16 PM

Thanks Rob, I appreciate the input and understand what you are saying. I guess I looking at the front and rear components as an upgrade for some that can be done in phases and I'm doing everything at once and just want to make sure I have the best I can buy. i really not worried about the cost, I just don't want to redo things down the road. That's why I respect everyone's input!! Thanks....

DannyZ · #15 08-22-2016, 01:08 PM

In making a decision on which direction I will be going, I'm not worried about the cost of the decision. After looking at the DSE quadralink setup and looking at the install and the sub frame connectors I have some thoughts on the comparison between the FastTrack frame and the DSE parts. With DSE you have to weld the sub frames together. I like the idea with the RS FT frame that I can run all the plumbing and lines with the body off the car and easily test fit the body sense it will be bolted together not welded. Also it would seem that a jig built chassis like the RS FT frame would have better front and rear wheel alignment and track alignment sense it is built as one unit verse the DSE separate front and rear units joining with a third factory, the sub frame connectors, plus the fourth variable the body itself. Now all four items need to be aligned and welded together and then you are stuck with alignment good or bad at that point? Also have you guys heard from anybody that has autocrossed the RS FT frame and has any input on the IRS setup and how they like it?

**Flash68** · #16 08-22-2016, 01:57 PM

It sounds like you want someone to tell you to get the RS full frame.

I will be that guy for you.

Just buy it.

Welcome.

**GregWeld** · #17 08-22-2016, 03:15 PM

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I think that I have decided to go a different direction with the car. I'm going to sell the new 396 stroker and the Tremco TKO 600 and buy a LT-4 and a T56 trans. Then going to sell the front DSE front sub-frame setup and the Heidts PRO-G IRS rear end and order a Roadster Shop FastTrack Chassis to handle the added HP. I think that this would make more sense? But any input would be nice to here? Thanks Dan

Danny --- While I'm friends with DSE - and RS guys... and I don't give a hoot who's stuff you buy.... I think you're idea about the "handling hp" might be a bit off.... as there are many cars on here with 1000hp and running DSE or SpeedTech or Art Morrison or Chris Alston stuff..... to name but a few of the manufacturers.

Get your plan together with a LOT more details ---- as in ---- EXACTLY what you want when you're all done. Tire sizes - USE - ride quality matter? - Drive a little or a lot? Do all that BEFORE you spend another dime or sell another piece off the car.

DannyZ · #18 08-22-2016, 04:10 PM

Thanks Greg and I agree

I plan on the LT4 engine and think I would be happy with the 650HP.
I plan to drive the car a lot on the street and even long cruises, so drive-ability and having it well dialed in is a must. I want the best handling I can get with as nice a ride as possible. I know that all of the builders we are talking about make great parts and I'm surely not trying to put any one down, but more looking at the build process like what you are talking about.

I like the DSE parts but it just seems for the amount of fab work to tie all three sections together, which in the end they are trying to made a full frame setup in a uni-body car for stiffness to improve handling. I sure that a lot of the companies built their kits so they can be done in phases as the car owners budgets will allow, thus the the companies can sell more kits then a full frame setup that is a big price tag to handle at once for some car owners, or they don't want to do a full rework so they can do it in stages and have their car off the road for less time and I get that part.
The DSE is parts are well proven, and I just think that if you do the math on a full frame and a separate stage kits, I think that in the end, that it is pretty close cost wise if you include the added fab needed for the DSE installs versa the full frame. So that's why I'm asking you guys this comparison, I truly value your opinions and your knowledge about these builds, and look forward to hearing your input on these issues. Also, it always seems to me , that in the past, I always say "If I had do do it over..." and it's always good to hear those kind of remarks that makes us better builders!!

DannyZ · #19 08-22-2016, 04:12 PM

I love this line Greg

I have less tools than I used to... So I'm going to start buying them back...

**GregWeld** · #20 08-22-2016, 04:16 PM

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I love this line Greg

I have less tools than I used to... So I'm going to start buying them back...

It used to read ---- I have some tools.... one day I'd like to have some skill using them.

Then 3 months ago I was diagnosed with stage IV Klatskin tumor and pronounced that I'd be dead in 6 months.... so sold all my stuff..... and then now that I'm feeling a LOT better - I might have to buy them all back.