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CJD Automotive · #**371** 03-22-2019, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TheJDMan

Greg,
Can you give a bit more information on the "auto blip box" is that a separate add on device? Is that the one sold by Tractive Technology out of Phoenix?

It's using a Xineering box, http://www.xineering.com.

Another example of Sutton having no clue what he was doing and simply spending Greg's money, because he could.
It's an excellent system, but not necessary as the Holley Dominator can be programmed to do the same thing...they just didn't know how.

Blake Foster · #**372** 03-22-2019, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CJD Automotive

It's using a Xineering box, http://www.xineering.com.

Another example of Sutton having no clue what he was doing and simply spending Greg's money, because he could.
It's an excellent system, but not necessary as the Holley Dominator can be programmed to do the same thing...they just didn't know how.

Just to add to this, yes the Holley CAN be programmed to do the job. BUT we had Brian Macy here for the dyno and it is not possible to cut the ignition power to the coils on the Holley (his words), apparently. You would need to do it with timing or the throttle blade. which is not as fast. We discussed using the blip module in conjunction with the Holley to make the engine smoother especially on the down shift as it does really need to have the fuel trimmed down at that point to reduce the backfire and popping. Brian felt the blip box is the best option.

The blip box is adjustable, Taking to David from PPG tranmissions (who build the T56) you can adjust the time delay both up and down shift and that is something we did not mess with yet, we have the newest software version and are looking at it and what it can do. there are 3 different systems that all need to work together the Holley the Autometer dash and the Blip Box. so it will take some time and laps to get it all in sync for sure.

We added alot of accessories to the car engine transmission and diff coolers all with thermostats. the engine uses a inline manual stat and the trans and diff have temp senders in them that switch on a Tilton circ pump to pump it to the coolers. no need to circ it 100% of the time, that is all controlled by the Holley the power steering cooler is just in line and 100%

We will have another track /day practice /set up and will likely have Brian and Max (from Xineering) as he has offered to come and help with the set up, it is a team effort to get all the systems operating at their peak.

Hope that explains a couple things

**GregWeld** · #**373** 03-22-2019, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CJD Automotive

It's using a Xineering box, http://www.xineering.com.

Another example of Sutton having no clue what he was doing and simply spending Greg's money, because he could.
It's an excellent system, but not necessary as the Holley Dominator can be programmed to do the same thing...they just didn't know how.

Actually — in Sutton’s defense — he didn’t make every choice in a vacuum. We had discussed the auto blip function and as many things - there’s more than one way to get a job done — We chose the box based function because it’s effective “time wise” - vs doing all the tuning required to get it just right in the Dominator system. The box is effective and relatively simple....

These cars today begin to get “electronically” complicated.... how many guys know the Dominator tuning - now add shift boxes - now add V-Box system - and the dashboards used today. We were trying to do “simple” - simple means “easy to learn and adjust” without the need of flying in people - and the track time to develope etc.

Panteracer · #**374** 03-22-2019, 08:56 AM

I remember talking to Jeff Foster a few years back
(he drives a very bad ass Cobra).. they were trying out
a new porsche with the new sequential trans
He told me it was like cheating.... he was messing
with it at the starting line of an autocross and it was in
4th gear... the brains of the car automatically put it
down in 1st and he was off.. it did it so fast he didn't
lose any time.. but Porsche has a lot of testing etc
in their cars.

I changed the cam in my 47 year Old Pantera because
the GT3's were starting to pull me down the straight
all because of the new sequentials

You can pick up a new Gt2 RS at the bottom of the
ocean where that ship went down

Dirt Missile is really looking great nowadays

Bob

**Spiffav8** · #**375** 03-22-2019, 09:32 PM

Glad things are coming together and that the "dialing in" continues. It was a lot of fun to watch Jay run the car and the crew at Speedtech have done a great job. Looking forward to seeing more.