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Old 01-09-2007, 12:41 PM
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Nitro, no more. What is your point? You are truly going to kill yourself.

Have you ever seen how much the Nextel cars are moving around at 200 mph. One little bump and now you will be airborne. It takes alot of extra power when you create alot of down force to keep it on the ground.

Go rent a Ferrari or something, but don't try this in your Chevelle. Seriously.
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Old 01-09-2007, 02:27 PM
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Default 200+ MPH, Stock Body, No Cage

Sounds like a candidate for the "Darwins".
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Old 01-09-2007, 02:52 PM
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This picturre is just for FUN. Remember that, please.

Nitro,
I hope everything works out for you, ya know, in a safe manner. Please, listen to the other members who have been there(raced around at 200MPH) and done that.



If his car gets to 200MPH...well, I think this could happen(look at picture)
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Old 01-09-2007, 03:36 PM
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I guess I will never post anything about this project again.

Some act like I am trying this with a F350 pickup truck. You say listen to all those with knowledge. Ive read everything,and am not telling anybody there info is wrong or that I do not care. Some have experience and have given some pointers. 90 percent of the other comments are from those with no experience and seem to thing the car will spontaneously combust at 200 mph.
Anything is possible and 200 is plenty attainable. I have the power , I will have the safety, I am researching all if any potential aero problems, and that's that! 180, 190+ is attained everyday by factory bodied Novas, Pontiacs, Chevelles, and Camaros in the quarter mile. Some with nothing more them just one simple "Promod" wing on the back for Aero.

I still say, If this guy can do 190 no problem, so can I!!!!!!!!!!




My car will be ready in spring, and hopefuly sometime this summer when I get the funds to go to North Carolina, or find a more local 1 mile track, I will post my numbers.

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Old 01-09-2007, 10:03 PM
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I've done it when I was at Grumman, but never heard the term Woodtufting. It was referred to as Vector Field Analysis....but I like the term Woodtufting better!
Woodtufting was a term used by the old school cats. I first heard of this term from the Vince Piggins group white papers, which did the developmental work for GM's TransAm effort's in the 60's. I actually learned this process explicitly while doing work for Dryden FRC. It was a cheap 'proof of concept' tool without spending tons of money. All the VFA we did started with woodtufting, sometimes oil drop... and if the test vessel made it that far... it was scaled with pressure sensitive paint. First in grey scale, before moving on to color. The grey scale stuff was a trip... you could actually 'see' the fliud (ambient air) moving around an object.

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180, 190+ is attained everyday by factory bodied Novas, Pontiacs, Chevelles, and Camaros in the quarter mile. Some with nothing more them just one simple "Promod" wing on the back for Aero.

My car will be ready in spring, and hopefuly sometime this summer when I get the funds to go to North Carolina, or find a more local 1 mile track, I will post my numbers.
...Im not making an antagonistic point with this, but they are doing those numbers with 1600-2000hp, chassis weights down near 2200lbs and pulling chutes at the end of that to stabilize the chassis and slow it down. Aero effect's start becoming a player at around 75mph.

I say... just keep up the homework over the next few months while your tinkering your way into spring. Sponge as much information as possible... and get some seat time. I wont say it cant be done, because it can. Your over zealous tone makes some people warry.
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Old 01-09-2007, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE:_ I still say, If this guy can do 190 no problem, so can I!!!!!!!!!!

please show us the article that made you aware that this car can run 190mph. As far as I'm aware Steves Granada is set up for drag racing,not flat out speed & that picture is at Santa Pod raceway which is a drag strip. How do you know that the guy isn't bull****ting about having run 190mph, he certainly wouldn't be the first to make outrageous claims would he? If that car had run 190mph ALL of our British custom/racing magazines would have run an article on it. As far as I'm aware that car hasn't been featured anywhere mainstream. If it's true that he has run those speeds, why don't you contact him & ask how he managed it? Incidentally, that so called "simple" pro mod wing is there for a purpose & it's not so simple as you may think to get the aero correct on one. It isn't just a case of bolt on a big wing & go for it. If the pro mods need something like that to run the numbers are you gonna fit one for high speed stability?? If not, why do the pro mods bother to fit them at all?

Take everyones advice on board, life is a very precious thing that can be snuffed out in an instant!!

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Old 01-09-2007, 10:56 PM
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Nitro I feel bad for you. Every time you post anything all you get is a million people lecturing you about safety. People recomended that you add a cage and upgrade your brakes and then you had threads about upgrading brakes and cage. Seems like you listened to me. When ever you start a thread I think oh man, he is about to get hammered again. Sounds to me like you realise that lift and drag are the things holding you back, and that you need to adress safety. If you take care of those I think it is atainable. People used to think going over the speed of sound was imposible in a plane. Luckely Chuck Yeager and the USAF challenged it anyway. I hope I didn't piss anyone off.
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:04 PM
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I'm thinking maybe I could take the Mule to the Moon....what do you all think ?
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:11 PM
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I'm thinking maybe I could take the Mule to the Moon....what do you all think ?
I think Nitro's already there.........
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I'm thinking maybe I could take the Mule to the Moon....what do you all think ?
Lets go!....I'm driving.

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