DSE quadra link vs. leaf springs

[GHOSTDANCER]

Good reading

[chicane]

Hey... the Z06 uses leaf springs !!

[Bowtieracing]

Originally Posted by streetfytr68

I have two leaf spring cars here at my disposal--One with Hotchkis springs, one with DSE springs. The Hotchkis car does not suffer any wheel hop or axle tramp whatsoever. The DSE car (mine) has begun to exhibit some wheel hop under hard straightline acceleration. But only after swapping from a 12 bolt to a 9". Before the 9" there was zero wheel hop. I will check pinion angle here in a coupla weeks.

The car with Hotchkis leafs has DSE coilover conversion, ATS spindles, Konis, and DSE A-arms. Tires are 255/45-18 Toyos

Have you got any info between 9" or 12 bolt? I have planned to go with offset DSE leafs but so far thought 9" would be better? But if not i would like to have opinion. I think my tire choise will be 275 at front and 335 at rear.

I believe this is important therd to keep alive. I am looking for most bang for the buck in name of as good handling as possible. I finally got answered from DSE to my question wich was :

Qlese give me your honest opinoin here: Do i really need the Quadralink with DSE front suspension or can i go with your 3" drop springs ? Can i notice the difference with 100% street driving skills ??

A:4. The 3” drop springs work good, but the QUADRA-Link takes it to the next level. In our testing there was vast improvement in all “road coarse” and “drag strip” numbers

That was good reply from DSE but i cant imagine "how good" the improvement really is with average joe driving skill.

[Stuart Adams]

Originally Posted by Bowtieracing

Have you got any info between 9" or 12 bolt? I have planned to go with offset DSE leafs but so far thought 9" would be better? But if not i would like to have opinion. I think my tire choise will be 275 at front and 335 at rear.

I believe this is important therd to keep alive. I am looking for most bang for the buck in name of as good handling as possible. I finally got answered from DSE to my question wich was :

Qlese give me your honest opinoin here: Do i really need the Quadralink with DSE front suspension or can i go with your 3" drop springs ? Can i notice the difference with 100% street driving skills ??

A:4. The 3” drop springs work good, but the QUADRA-Link takes it to the next level. In our testing there was vast improvement in all “road coarse” and “drag strip” numbers

That was good reply from DSE but i cant imagine "how good" the improvement really is with average joe driving skill.

Kyle states both the quality of the ride and performance is improved which is pretty sweet. Its surely not a NEED but like a channel changer, once used always wanted. Jason's FUEL has the Q link and was on PT, maybe he will post about it.

[fesler]

we do all four link rear ends on our Camaros with air bags or Coil overs and they are far better then the springs. We did one car with a set of springs and did not like the way it handled at all. The four link is by far the best way to go if you dont mind cutting the car up and can do your own fab or have a shop that can do it for you. Its about a days labor to get it all in depending on what way you run the rear set up.

[Boulder69]

I have DSE 3" leafs with the basic red Koni classics. They ride pretty rough compared to stock, but the roads here do suck. But on the plus side, it was a pretty cheap setup, and my Camaro's a$$ is no longer sky high. Along with the barney bolt on 2" drop front coils and Konis my ride no longer has the Caddy lean in the canyons. Still a long way from sporty, but that is just a matter of dough for wheels at this point. The rest of the stuff is sitting around in boxes teasing me.

One advantage of the pixie dust springs is not relying on a vendor for the long haul. What if the PT style fades and these companies disappear? Where you gonna find that funky bushing made for a link system from a company that is no longer around? Leafs are the stock configuration and there will likely always be some old fart that can design and build good ones. One disadvantage of the pixie dust springs may be the need for some really $pendy shocks. Or not.

I plan on one day going with the LD 3-linky, but for now leafs will do. I also plan on going with 9.5" rear wheels to start, but since I will be spending the bucks on Forgelines (still saving Frank), I can go wider later if I need to (3-piece makes it cheaper). I'm not sure how much more than a 285 I would need if I stick with the standard 245 front anyway.

I guess my point is I'm willing to sacrifice some performance and money to have budget pro-touring now, with a little more refined setup later. I want to drive as much as possible, so a little lost cash selling used stuff when I upgrade is more than worth it to me.

Good info in this thread. I've ignored it until tonight - I thought it was just another "what kind of wheels should I get" thang. -eric

P.S. It's freaking cold here right now.

[Leadfoot1]

Originally Posted by fesler

we do all four link rear ends on our Camaros with air bags or Coil overs and they are far better then the springs. We did one car with a set of springs and did not like the way it handled at all. The four link is by far the best way to go if you dont mind cutting the car up and can do your own fab or have a shop that can do it for you. Its about a days labor to get it all in depending on what way you run the rear set up.

I was doing much the same as Boulder.... Great reading in fact!

Chris, your the only one who brought "Bags" to the discussion. Having read good stuff on the Air bar and such, anyone care to discuss that style of hang? I'm almost there on ordering an airbar for mine and for sure interested in performance, but the ease of tuning, of height adjustment and RIDE QUALITY are also important. I saw the article where the AB bested the QL, so to me it sounds interesting (make that no brainer) to get all the advantages of the AB for less $.

Opinions?

Also, Chris, did you get the message on me asking the size of the wheels/ tires on the blue Yenko 69 you give the link to? I'm interested in comparing other 69's with 19"s up front as i just got mine and am unsure of tire size to run. Thanks!

[mazspeed]

Originally Posted by Leadfoot1

I saw the article where the AB bested the QL, so to me it sounds interesting (make that no brainer) to get all the advantages of the AB for less $.

In ride, not all out performance.

[Jr]

Originally Posted by Leadfoot1

I saw the article where the AB bested the QL, so to me it sounds interesting (make that no brainer) to get all the advantages of the AB for less $.

Do you have a link to the article?
David

[cykotic]

Doesn't air bags mess with the front geometry? Screws up the camber or whatever?