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Old 02-01-2007, 04:35 PM
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In ride, not all out performance.

Nope, Best Lap.

I'll try and find it.

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New for summer '13. My latest find!!

48k miles, 100% original, 1969 Camaro coupe. Untouched, never apart and squeaky clean!!! 327/th350, A/C car. Gold on black w/vinyl top. Only add ons; Fast ratio box and SS396 wheels.

FINALLY!!! A car without rust repairs ever!!! None before, none coming!!! Cant come to modifying it tough....

...So, '67 Camaro project with my laying around stuff out of my black 'vert. 468 BB and YSI blower, braked th400, 12 bolt/spool, 35 splines etc. Complete Calvert suspension front and rear. 30x13.5 ET Streets, caged, lightened, slammed and running low 9's "Street car"
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Old 02-01-2007, 04:38 PM
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Doesn't air bags mess with the front geometry? Screws up the camber or whatever?

Yes, when your on the ground..But you dont roll at that height. You set the suspension at ride height so its at the good setting while rolling down the road.

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New for summer '13. My latest find!!

48k miles, 100% original, 1969 Camaro coupe. Untouched, never apart and squeaky clean!!! 327/th350, A/C car. Gold on black w/vinyl top. Only add ons; Fast ratio box and SS396 wheels.

FINALLY!!! A car without rust repairs ever!!! None before, none coming!!! Cant come to modifying it tough....

...So, '67 Camaro project with my laying around stuff out of my black 'vert. 468 BB and YSI blower, braked th400, 12 bolt/spool, 35 splines etc. Complete Calvert suspension front and rear. 30x13.5 ET Streets, caged, lightened, slammed and running low 9's "Street car"
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Old 02-01-2007, 04:39 PM
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Nope, Best Lap.

I'll try and find it.

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I think second best lap and by a professional driver no less.
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Old 02-01-2007, 05:19 PM
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http://www.pro-touring.com/forum/sho...autocross+hell
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69 Camaro - LT1 w/ 700R4, DSE springs, swaybar and Konis. Still rockin' it old school with 15" wheels with 60 series tires.
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Old 02-01-2007, 05:20 PM
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Yeah, i think you might be right, i think it was second best.

Still. Secon on a field of Hi perf proven systems. Thats MORE than AWESOME for the advantages the Air bar offers (flexibility, height adjustment and as you mentionned yourself....Ride quality)

Nobody wanted to hear about Air a few short months ago, so being right on the a$$ of the "Best" (and do you recall the difference in time, it wasn't much at all if i remember) its worth being considered, hey, you get more fore less$!

My point of view.

Thanks for remembering Maz,

Lead.

I looked for the article but cant find it on the net, gotta look at my mags i guess. If i find it i'll post it for everyones benefit.
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New for summer '13. My latest find!!

48k miles, 100% original, 1969 Camaro coupe. Untouched, never apart and squeaky clean!!! 327/th350, A/C car. Gold on black w/vinyl top. Only add ons; Fast ratio box and SS396 wheels.

FINALLY!!! A car without rust repairs ever!!! None before, none coming!!! Cant come to modifying it tough....

...So, '67 Camaro project with my laying around stuff out of my black 'vert. 468 BB and YSI blower, braked th400, 12 bolt/spool, 35 splines etc. Complete Calvert suspension front and rear. 30x13.5 ET Streets, caged, lightened, slammed and running low 9's "Street car"
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Old 02-01-2007, 05:30 PM
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Lead, I already posted it above.
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Old 02-01-2007, 05:31 PM
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Cool, just received it.

It wasn't on when i checked in, we must have been typing at the same time .

Hey, Thanks!!!

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New for summer '13. My latest find!!

48k miles, 100% original, 1969 Camaro coupe. Untouched, never apart and squeaky clean!!! 327/th350, A/C car. Gold on black w/vinyl top. Only add ons; Fast ratio box and SS396 wheels.

FINALLY!!! A car without rust repairs ever!!! None before, none coming!!! Cant come to modifying it tough....

...So, '67 Camaro project with my laying around stuff out of my black 'vert. 468 BB and YSI blower, braked th400, 12 bolt/spool, 35 splines etc. Complete Calvert suspension front and rear. 30x13.5 ET Streets, caged, lightened, slammed and running low 9's "Street car"
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Old 02-01-2007, 05:55 PM
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Nope, Best Lap.

I'll try and find it.

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Read that thread again: QUOTE: me "After the show, Tony Bolton clicked off a 63.817 in the Air Ride Buick. So you could say that a big ol' airbag equipped A-body beat all of the Camaros. And I knw that a lot of you don't want to hear this, but the airbag cars ran hard, hooked up and ran with the metal spring cars. " END QUOTE.

The first words are "After the show". The track was shutting us down when Tony hopped into the Buick for the hell of it and ran the 63-eight. The official race was over. It was an impromptu post-race lap. I can confidently state that if the event had not ended, all of the top cars could have clicked off 63 second laps. The lesson learned was not that the Air Ride Buick was fastest--it was that all cars ran surprisingly similar times.

Bret's Buick had a lotta beans under the hood, but I still think my car can beat it. Hopefully, we'll find out this year.
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Old 02-02-2007, 07:18 AM
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Kyle states both the quality of the ride and performance is improved which is pretty sweet. Its surely not a NEED but like a channel changer, once used always wanted. Jason's FUEL has the Q link and was on PT, maybe he will post about it.

I think the ride quality is the key point. The fact that the QL improves the car as much as it does without requiring big changes to the car is an impressive engineering feat. Why are leaf srings not used on any car built for the last 20+ years? Even the new full size SUVs from GM have coilovers and 4 link in back.

While I have yet to do the grinding and finish work on my install, so far I have only a day in it, and I work alone in my garage with limited tools.

For a self install that turns out looking like a factory setup, there is no better deal than the QL.

Personally I think folks that figure they are going to tear up on a road course in a 40y/o car are missing alot. A used C5 Z06 will cost less and perform much better in bone stock form than any modified 1st gen Camaro and is a better car than 99% of us, myself included, know how to drive.
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Old 02-02-2007, 08:07 AM
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Now we're getting somewhere. With regards to pro-touring (as opposed to racing), more emphasis should be placed on ride quality than ultimate 10/10ths grip. And pretty much all of the options will ride significantly better than leaf springs.
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