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View Poll Results: Would you like a Suspension Masters Challenge?
Yes, tangible suspension information would really be helpful! 22 84.62%
No, this type of information would be boring to read. 4 15.38%
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Old 02-05-2008, 01:07 AM
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Default Poll: How about a Jeg's Suspension Masters Challenge?

To All:

Every year there is Jegs Engine Masters Challenge, which allows competition between engine builders to prove the performance of their own Engines and products.

I would like to see if their would be any interest from the readers of the Magazines, and the consumers of suspension packages, to encourage the suspension suppliers to engage in a similar competition.

The competitors would be supplied a , "Mule", to install their package on, it would then be taken and put through a series of performance trials.

These trails would use normally accepted test by which the suspension and it's characteristics could be judged.

Since many here like to run Auto X, Drag Race and Road Race their cars, test could be constructed to evaluate the different packages with regards to these types of of uses.

Further, the suspensions could be evaluated on the ease of installation, the adjustment of their products, and the range of adjustments allowed by their products.

Purchasers could then decide on the suitability of each product for their own applications.

I think it would lead to a watershed of information for consumers and producers a like. As time went on I think the types and quality of products would improve over time, and as a result we could be building ever better cars.

It might be somewhat embarrassing at first for some of the suppliers, however, in the long run I think it would become a Win/Win for everyone.

Engines as everyone knows by now are capable of making huge power even to the point of absurdity, on pump gas. Power from the engines is not a problem for us. Our main challenge is building better handling cars, and then learning to drive them.

I for one would love to know what exactly there is to buy, and I think it would really further the, "Pro Touring", movement as far as suspension technology is concerned.

The Mule could be built out of a 1st gen Camaro/Firebird chassis built to very stringent specs:

For example the same engine would be used by everyone and could be dino'ed before the start of each competitors trials. This would help assure a baseline that the engine was of a certain make model and weight and produced X amount of rear wheel horse power before the start of each persons test.

The Mule would already have many of the common add-ons that are found on most of our cars. (Mini-Tubs etc.)

The competitors would use the same wheels and tires that were already set up to run on the Mule so that variation could be eliminated from the test results.

The competitors could install all they had for that particular car, whether it be all bolt on, like Hotchkiss Performance, or it could be as involved as DSE's front subframe and rear end, or AM's complete chassis.

What ever they wanted to bring to the trials would be up to them.

The Mule could be tested and shipped to the next participant who would install and test their products and be tested 60 days from the last competitors. Every month the Magazines could keep us up to date on the next competitor. The first month would cover what the company is installing, and how involved the installation is, then the following month the results of that companies products would be tested and printed in the next issue of the magazine.

By the time 12 -18 months later, We as consumers would have a great deal of information at our disposal for decision making. The companies would get
two months worth of exposure on their products, and the magazine would have some very interesting articles to print.

As competitors upgraded their products or had different types of products to sell, they could get back in line for another testing. For instance, AM has complete frames, and they have subframes. In one test they could highlight there premium products and in the next test they could highlight their value produces.

All in all we as readers would continue to get cutting edge information about the suspension products we all seek for our cars. I also think this would help diversify the the types of articles every month in the magazines. As long as a baseline was maintained (i.e. a common Mule) the information would have real meaning for the reader.

For me understanding each companies data, then trying to compare it to another companies data has been a nightmare, because there is to many variables that were not held constant for any real meaning in the article.

The Scientific Method of analyzing different produces is not a difficult thing to structure and there is really no reason NOT to use it unless real tangible information is not wanted to be exposed. I would doubt any of the manufacturers would desire this type of confusion, but for the benefit of the readers I really think this would be a huge improvement with regards to the suspension products on the market.

The Jegs Engine Masters Challenge is always an interesting thing to read every year and it helps open my eyes on the real differences between the different builders and their products.

I would encourage some kind of challenge regarding just the suspension suppliers so we can have the opportunity to buy the products that best suit our needs or desires.

Anyway, I would like to hear any other thoughts about this.

We took a pool a while back where we learn at least with the people on the forum that 65-70 percent of the readers would like to see a lot more articles on the LSx technology. I think this was significant information for any magazine to take a look at and try to incorporate into their upcoming issues.

Anyway, thats my opinion. What do you guys think?

I look forward to hearing from you and the manufacturers.

Take Care

Ty
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Last edited by tyoneal; 02-05-2008 at 01:19 AM. Reason: Wanted to clarify the post better.
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