The rear seat area in Dales car looks good but you don't necessarily "have" to loose the seat. I decided I wanted to keep it in my car and just designed everything to make it work. Of course no one can use it, (no one could even get back there) but it's a "look" I wanted for my car and it doesn't weigh much. The rear seat bottoms don't even have frames, they're just foam covered with the upholstery and I them out before track days.