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Originally Posted by Sieg
When you're attempting to keep up with faster drivers or riders as in my motorcycle past, no matter if it's recreational or organized racing, I feel it is very accurate in describing the fact that you were driving or riding over your head in an attempt to keep pace with someone you knew was faster.......and in that case I absolutely perceive it as running out of talent and on bikes it hurts, sometimes real bad! 
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Egg sack lee....
It's the perfect description. I know this first hand because it's happened to me every time I THOUGHT I should be able to keep up with "X" car that just blew by me like I was hooked to a fire hydrant.... then I suddenly would find the loud pedal and try to stay up with him/her.... And then the talent runs out.
It's not a PUT DOWN Ron.... which apparently you think it is... rather -- it's an accurate description of what happens when you are driving over your head far enough to get yourself and the car in trouble.
Trying to "explore your limits" with other people and their cars on the track is not the place to be doing that. The limit should be when you're IN CONTROL of your car at all times... go beyond that and you put other peoples equipment and their safety at jeopardy. It took me about three + track events to discover this.
This is why I point people by --- I'm still a newb at this --- and I'm running Green group with other very experienced drivers.... so the way to explore is to learn from their line -- see if you can stay somewhere near them... and get some seat time etc. As soon as I find myself at MY limits - I've learned to back off and let 'em go lest I run out of talent. LOL