Older Richmond 5-Speed in My 1969 Firebird

[Ron Fox]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

Ron --

Why don't you look into doing a POLL here -- you can post a poll - and get votes on various transmissions - 6 speed - 5 speed od - 5 speed richmond non od - muncie 4 speed etc.


My guess is you'd not get one single vote for the Richmond non OD transmission. Seriously -- post up a poll. It would be interesting to see what the response would be.

How do you post a poll?

Thanks.

[Mkelcy]

Originally Posted by Ron Fox

How do you post a poll?

Thanks.

The main thing a poll will determine is who has the most successful advertising department.

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by Mkelcy

The main thing a poll will determine is who has the most successful advertising department.

I don't know how or why you'd say that. A poll on this website would give you a broad array of some very knowledgeable people - who've been there and done that. In fact - if you just looked through the "project introductions" on this website - or over at Pro-Touring.Com - my guess is you wouldn't find a single person planning on using a Richmond non OD 5 speed. There's a very good reason for that... and it has nothing to do with "advertising". You know that because you've shifted (driven) one of these beasts - and have compared it to the far superior Tremec.

I have no axe to grind in this - I don't care what he does - I won't have to drive it. He asked for opinions on this transmission and I have TRIED to give him some honest no BS feedback.

Now -- I hope he buys it -- so when he drives it he can come back and post "dang! I should have listened to you"!

BTW - RON - Your builder must have a personal interest in this particular used transmission - otherwise there is NO WAY he'd advise you do put it behind a HUGELY TORQUEY Pontiac big block... particularly since this is an all new fresh build - so tranny tunnel mods etc should not be any issue... and NOBODY puts in a non overdrive transmissions these days... it would just be a complete waste of time and money. The beauty of having an overdrive transmission - is because you can have performance AND cruisability - something that was unobtainable "back in the day".

[Mkelcy]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

I don't know how or why you'd say that. A poll on this website would give you a broad array of some very knowledgeable people - who've been there and done that.

For my part I prefer hard data and information to random expressions of opinion. Although there are people here with great experience, a poll isn't going to show who's voting. So all you get is numbers.

It's been my observation that people tend to recommend what they've purchased themselves, even if it's still sitting in the box because their car isn't done yet. That's a recommendation that's pretty worthless to me. You and I have said the Richmond is notchy, that Tremecs shift smoother, and I gave a comparison of the the gear ratios for the two. A request for input comparing the shifting of the two might be useful; a poll - not so much.

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by Mkelcy

For my part I prefer hard data and information to random expressions of opinion. Although there are people here with great experience, a poll isn't going to show who's voting. So all you get is numbers.

It's been my observation that people tend to recommend what they've purchased themselves, even if it's still sitting in the box because their car isn't done yet. That's a recommendation that's pretty worthless to me. You and I have said the Richmond is notchy, that Tremecs shift smoother, and I gave a comparison of the the gear ratios for the two. A request for input comparing the shifting of the two might be useful; a poll - not so much.

Good point.

I was thinking though - that given the amount of OVERWHELMING choices that a poll would show - might convince him that MOST people are not looking to install a clunky old skool Richmond.

[Ron Fox]

Thanks Mike and Greg. This is what this site is all about.

Please keep the information coming because I am trying to soak up all the car information I can.

Please talk more about the cause and solution of the bogging down issue with high hp.

Thanks.

[Mkelcy]

Originally Posted by Ron Fox

Thanks Mike and Greg. This is what this site is all about.

Please keep the information coming because I am trying to soak up all the car information I can.

Please talk more about the cause and solution of the bogging down issue with high hp.

Thanks.

What engine are you putting in the car, what heads, how big are the intake runners, how big a cam, what induction system and what transmission and rear gear are you going for? My guess is you don't need to worry about a bog off idle, but some info on your build might help.

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by Ron Fox

How do you post a poll?

Thanks.

Follow the instructions.


https://lateral-g.net/forums/faq....b_poll_explain