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Vegas69 · #1 12-19-2009, 03:04 PM

According to GM specs there is a 150 lb difference between a Gen VI 454 block and the ZL-1 block. That's pretty significant. I'm pretty sure it puts me within 100 lbs of an LSX and should be comparable to a small block with aluminum heads. EVERYTHING under the hood is aluminum as well. I guess I should look into the dry sump option a little more. I already have plans for a road race pan, windage tray, and scraper. Keep in mind that I also have a 3qt accumulator. I wasn't having oil pump pickup problems with my street strip pan and accumulator that I know of..... I've got to cut myself off somewhere.

zbugger · #2 12-19-2009, 03:20 PM

Damn dude.... Your car just keeps getting more and more cool. I liked the car before, but this makes it just nuts.

Oh, and I'd go with the guys on the dry sump setup. Or are you saving that for a reason to take the car apart again in the future? Anything not to be "done", huh? lol.... They're never done.

**waynieZ** · #3 12-19-2009, 04:14 PM

Get it going Greg I got $40 !

Vegas69 · #4 12-21-2009, 10:29 AM

There is just no easy way for me to package it at this point. It has to be belt driven and I'm not just going to mount the big honkin tank on the firewall either. That can O worms just doesn't appeal to me right now. Unless I'm missing something....

**GregWeld** · #5 12-21-2009, 10:36 AM

All you need is a road race pan to control oil creep and slosh - so you don't run dry...

I agree with you - you add one thing and it's a can of worms that doesn't stop...

monza · #6 12-22-2009, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69

There is just no easy way for me to package it at this point. It has to be belt driven and I'm not just going to mount the big honkin tank on the firewall either. That can O worms just doesn't appeal to me right now. Unless I'm missing something....

Nope you've got it nailed... yes belt driven, yes need a tank (does not have to be huge or on the firewall) I was actually close to going dry sump on my car, decided not to. I think they are a 'cool-techy' and make so much sense for the track . So I was just hoping I could live my dry sump fantasies through you..... (ouch- that sounds bad)
For sure it would open a can of worms on other things, but that was half the fun of seeing if I could get you to bite!

rogue · #7 12-22-2009, 12:27 PM

glad the dry sump idea has been killed. It would only be suited to the most hardcore of road racing prepped BBCs... You already have an accusump as insurance. You have to be doing some pretty impressive driving to NEED a dry sump.

Skip barber in 2010 Todd? I'm planning on it...

Vegas69 · #8 12-22-2009, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rogue

glad the dry sump idea has been killed. It would only be suited to the most hardcore of road racing prepped BBCs... You already have an accusump as insurance. You have to be doing some pretty impressive driving to NEED a dry sump.

Skip barber in 2010 Todd? I'm planning on it...

Definitely still on the agenda. The ladies at Spring Mountain still harass me on a regular basis. It's a 3 day in Corvettes over here, so that may be something to consider. I just need to figure out when and where. I was meaning to talk to you about your new milodon pan. What do you think of the quality?

awr68 · #9 12-19-2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69

According to GM specs there is a 150 lb difference between a Gen VI 454 block and the ZL-1 block. That's pretty significant. I'm pretty sure it puts me within 100 lbs of an LSX and should be comparable to a small block with aluminum heads.

That is a great savings and should be quite noticable! Thanks for posting the numbers Todd!

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Originally Posted by Vegas69

.... I've got to cut myself off somewhere.

I agree.....right after the dry sump!!

Vegas69 · #10 12-19-2009, 10:25 PM

Dry sump is out Tony. Greg and my buddy Wayne's $140 bucks won't even pay for the shipping.

If I was back in the fabrication stage and didn't have a fist full of accesories and no place to mount that monster oil tank it might be a different story. I've already breached my passenger inner fender for the accumulator. I don't mind making changes, but not at the cost of leaving a trail of after thoughts...... At the end of the day, a good pan, windage tray, and scraper will treat me right. It's not like I plan to run the 24 hours of Lemans here.