9 sec pt cars

[Junkie]

So what would you consider an 8 second muscle car that can be driven anywhere with all the luxuries of a newer more comfortable car. AC/Heater/sound system/comfy interior, etc.... That can also go well over 200 in the mile? It doesn't sound like that fits the bill for "protouring" Handling has never been my biggest concern hence my starting off with a prostreet based car and turning it more to the street side, but making enough power to go do whatever i would like to do.

[MtotheIKEo]

I wouldn't call anything with a Lenco or Liberty a street car to begin with. A cage that's legal for an 8sec car is not only a pain in the ass in a street car, but likely dangerous to be in without being strapped in and wearing a helmet.

[Junkie]

Originally Posted by MtotheIKEo

I wouldn't call anything with a Lenco or Liberty a street car to begin with.

Why not? Ive daily driven much worse.

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by Junkie

So what would you consider an 8 second muscle car that can be driven anywhere with all the luxuries of a newer more comfortable car. AC/Heater/sound system/comfy interior, etc.... That can also go well over 200 in the mile? It doesn't sound like that fits the bill for "protouring" Handling has never been my biggest concern hence my starting off with a prostreet based car and turning it more to the street side, but making enough power to go do whatever i would like to do.

Junkie --

Okay -- go here....

http://www.dragtimes.com/Lamborghini...ag-Racing.html

Then come back here -- and tell me what you're going to build that is going to SPANK this car by TEN --- COUNT 'em TEN - car lengths in the quarter mile....

Maybe you could do an 8.99 and beat it by a nose....?? And "say" you ran 8's?

[Junkie]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

Junkie --

Okay -- go here....

http://www.dragtimes.com/Lamborghini...ag-Racing.html

Then come back here -- and tell me what you're going to build that is going to SPANK this car by TEN --- COUNT 'em TEN - car lengths in the quarter mile....

Maybe you could do an 8.99 and beat it by a nose....?? And "say" you ran 8's?

Ive very familiar with the underground racing cars. Ive currently got a TT Viper street car. Just because it is new doesn't mean it is comfy or a nice "street" car by any means. The Lambo's those guys build are CRAZY after seeing them at the Mile i would love to have one but for the money i would personally rather build exactly what i want out of an older car.

I never said i ran 8's, i said my goal is an 8 second ET and well over 200mph in the texas mile while being able to drive the car out to dinner, to car meets, to anything i really want. Why do you have a problem with those goals?

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by Junkie

Ive very familiar with the underground racing cars. Ive currently got a TT Viper street car. Just because it is new doesn't mean it is comfy or a nice "street" car by any means. The Lambo's those guys build are CRAZY after seeing them at the Mile i would love to have one but for the money i would personally rather build exactly what i want out of an older car.

I never said i ran 8's, i said my goal is an 8 second ET and well over 200mph in the texas mile while being able to drive the car out to dinner, to car meets, to anything i really want. Why do you have a problem with those goals?

I don't!! Don't get me wrong -- it's always hard to impart "attitude" in a blog - or post -- I'm having FUN discussing this... I'm not trying to beat you down or prove my point -- RATHER -- I'm discussing how truly difficult it is... not saying you can't or you won't - or anything like that. My apologies if that's the way I came across!

[Junkie]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

I don't!! Don't get me wrong -- it's always hard to impart "attitude" in a blog - or post -- I'm having FUN discussing this... I'm not trying to beat you down or prove my point -- RATHER -- I'm discussing how truly difficult it is... not saying you can't or you won't - or anything like that. My apologies if that's the way I came across!

well ive been racing cars for awhile and breaking parts along the way, i know that my goals are VERY large and not easy to obtain but i think that is kind of the cool part about it. I personally don't mind driving a complicated transmission on the street (I'm sure my trans choice will make a lot of ppl say "racecar") but its better then breaking a T56 every few months. A nice BBC and procharger, the right gear, and suspension i don't see why one of these cars wont be able to go well into the 8's and at least 210mph in the standing mile. My Viper with only 800ish at the tires went 207 on the limiter, if i had a taller tire or different gear it would have went faster.

The combo will just have to be nailed, the only thing i cant really figure out as of now is the wheel/tire combo for the street and Mile runs and what to do about Aero, if anything. This is where i could really use some advice, i know Big Red was able to achieve well over 200mph but that was over a longer stretch of road then I'm trying to do it on.

[speedjohnston]

Originally Posted by Junkie

well ive been racing cars for awhile and breaking parts along the way, i know that my goals are VERY large and not easy to obtain but i think that is kind of the cool part about it. I personally don't mind driving a complicated transmission on the street (I'm sure my trans choice will make a lot of ppl say "racecar") but its better then breaking a T56 every few months. A nice BBC and procharger, the right gear, and suspension i don't see why one of these cars wont be able to go well into the 8's and at least 210mph in the standing mile. My Viper with only 800ish at the tires went 207 on the limiter, if i had a taller tire or different gear it would have went faster.

The combo will just have to be nailed, the only thing i cant really figure out as of now is the wheel/tire combo for the street and Mile runs and what to do about Aero, if anything. This is where i could really use some advice, i know Big Red was able to achieve well over 200mph but that was over a longer stretch of road then I'm trying to do it on.

Big Red used to hit about 222mph or something like that many years ago. Off the top of my head I think he hit 204ish mph in the mile. Some of the 1 mile venues will only allow specific tires once your speeds get higher, so be carefull and check with them first. I have a similar engine combo (581bbc with a F2) built for high speed road racing/drag/one mile events in a second gen camaro and done lots of research on aero. I also talked to Keith Turk who held records in land speed racing and I believe he recomended the drag radial, I bought the M/T 345/35/18's. I'll change them to something else if I have to before I go. He also recomended as low as possible in the front with a slight rake to the back and some speed rated thin tires up front. The bigger tires probably will help you get off the line but they will end up hurting top end, and since its speed based not time based, smaller may be a little better. The other issue is the gearing and the most likely for me was going to be a gear vendor and some 3.00 or 2.80 gears. There are so many factors I could go on and on....

[ProdigyCustoms]

Originally Posted by Junkie

So what would you consider an 8 second muscle car that can be driven anywhere with all the luxuries of a newer more comfortable car. AC/Heater/sound system/comfy interior, etc.... That can also go well over 200 in the mile? It doesn't sound like that fits the bill for "protouring" Handling has never been my biggest concern hence my starting off with a prostreet based car and turning it more to the street side, but making enough power to go do whatever i would like to do.

Keep in mind you are on the Latera-G forum and the G is for handling. So guys here are looking for somethig that handles and runs the dragstrip.

It would really take some serious talent and ingenuity to do 8 second ET's, handling to compete with the best PT cars, 200 mile Maxton and total streetability.

The Trans Am was brought up, but as mentioned that car never really did road coarse or autocross that we know of. At least not that any of use seen. Seemed like more of a sledge hammer with 18s on it to me.

Vinny is king right now as I have seen that car kick ass on the autocross, WIN the autocross, and be the fastest car at the dragstrip to. I suspect if he lowers that dragstrip number to 9.60 as Jake is predicting (and i agree), I think someone better do some serious planning to knock that off.

All I know is you guys are making me want to knock the dust of my street drag car, that's for sure!

[Vegas69]

You've been saying that since I met you.