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Old 05-28-2010, 05:27 AM
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Im no engineer or architect, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. I say remove the beam and see what happens......just kidding, dont do that!

I dont know about everyone else, but I'm going to sit back, grill some burgers and watch this.

Hopefully there will be some agreement and you can get some direction on what to do.

Good luck!
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Old 05-28-2010, 06:42 AM
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Gaetano.... seriously I wasnt putting you down and agree I dont want this to be a pissing match. I too many times over have dealt with contractors who took the liberty to make a field change base on something they did on a past job weeks, months sometimes years ago. Just because a situation is similar it couldnt be any further from the same. Each member or beam or header etc is ALWAYS calculated on its particular criteria. there is no "book" or standard. With that said Idont want to frey away from Mikes original post.
Ridge beams are nothing more than a closer for the rafters to nail to PERIOD.
Attached are some pics of ridge beams.... please note none of them are supported from underneath like a post would be. They are all simply nailed temporarily to hold them in place untill all the rafters are secured. In the last pic you can also see at the top where the two piece ridge is spliced by a simple 2x4. I am sorry to let you down but you are 100% wrong on this.
The ridge size is soley determined on the length (span) of the ridge itself and also by the rafter size and slope (the ridge wants to be larger than the cut angle of the rafter). Another example would be a truss roof. The trusses have no "ridge" they are butted together. Even when they are erected, there is no ridge beam.







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Old 05-28-2010, 11:08 AM
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Ridge beams are nothing more than a closer for the rafters to nail to PERIOD.
Just so no one gets the wrong idea, a ridge beam can be used as a structural member in certain circumstances. Like a cathedral ceiling. It is a special circumstance though.
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Old 05-28-2010, 02:58 PM
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You can lead a horse to water........................

Obviously you are not seeing the difference between ridge boards and ridge beams.

The photos you posted are ridge boards not beams.

I'm done here, nap time, LOL
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Old 05-28-2010, 06:28 PM
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Here ya go Mike --- a flitch beam....

http://www.betterheader.com/


Just don't trying saying it fast three times to your wife ...
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Old 05-28-2010, 07:39 PM
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thanks Greg. Well I'll admit, I didn't expect this when I posted that question. In the end, if it's going to be too much of a pain or too much money, I won't do it and will get used to working around it as I'm doing now. I know that posting pics don't always tell the whole store. Before I do anything, I plan on having someone come and look at it and see it in person. I posted this to see if it was even an option. Thanks again to everyone that responded.
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For what its worth....I had a similar wood post in my shop and chaged it out to an adjustible steel post found in basements. Its cheap like $65 and it is way slimmer and sleeker than the thick wood post. It made a world of differance and was done in a half hour with the metal posts spray painted to match the shop.
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You can lead a horse to water........................

Obviously you are not seeing the difference between ridge boards and ridge beams.

The photos you posted are ridge boards not beams.

I'm done here, nap time, LOL
I agree with you Mr. Track Junky.. Ridge beams ARE structural. Ridge Boards are NOT structural. The picture posted clearly shows a ridge board design. You can see each rafter has a plumb cut and attached to the ridge BOARD. What worries me is that a person who is educated and has a degree in this field is either confused or doesnt know the difference. Now which is worse, a bad contractor or engineer? I hope you havent been arguing with contractors over the past 15 years about this particular subject.
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Old 07-08-2010, 12:34 AM
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Oh sorry.. i need to post evidence and sources to back things up.. let me Google.


http://www.structural101.com/Structural-Ridge-Beam.html

Supports our theory..
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Old 07-08-2010, 08:13 AM
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The hell with the ridge beam and board and nailer...

Just "hot rod" the existing post the way I did mine!



AND YES -- IT IS BOLTED TO THE FLOOR -- but the post is sitting over the bolt so it's blind. And NO I don't give a damn if it's code or not.







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