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Old 07-25-2010, 05:11 PM
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Not so fast, the extra width allows larger fans. These cars weren't engineered for 600-700hp worth of cooling capacity. I drove my car yesterday with a PRC radiator and dual 12" Spal fans. It was 110, maybe a hair more. It actually does great as long as you stay moving. I was purposely driving it around town stop light to stop light to get it warm for a carb heat soak issue that caused me starting issues on Friday. It hit 210 after about 20-30 minutes of run time. My car actually runs fantastic at that temp. Not concerning but once I get the AC on it won't be to favorable unless I stay moving. I'd hate to see it above 220. This is with 13qts of oil and a aluminum block and heads. On the flip side, I chose my radiator support for my breather tanks, power steering resorvoir, AC accumulator. With a wider radiator, that wouldn't of been possible.
We normally do dual 13s on that radiator, but with your built in engine oil cooler your limited to dual 12s. The difference in total CFM from 2850 to 3490 is substantial especially at idle. 20% more fan will make a big difference in idle cooling. 4700 CFM out of dual 16" fans on a full core support is a huge difference.

With a wider core, mounting everything might get tricky for you. You would most likely have to front mount a overflow or one of your other canisters.
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Old 07-25-2010, 08:39 PM
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do they make these for first gen firebirds? also do you acctually gain any space from the motor to the radiator? some pics it looks like it.
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Old 07-25-2010, 10:04 PM
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do they make these for first gen firebirds? also do you acctually gain any space from the motor to the radiator? some pics it looks like it.
I gained quite a bit of space on my AutoRad deal.. 2-3 inches it seems like.

Call and ask on the Firebird deal.. I don't know how much the core support differs.
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We normally do dual 13s on that radiator, but with your built in engine oil cooler your limited to dual 12s. The difference in total CFM from 2850 to 3490 is substantial especially at idle. 20% more fan will make a big difference in idle cooling. 4700 CFM out of dual 16" fans on a full core support is a huge difference.

With a wider core, mounting everything might get tricky for you. You would most likely have to front mount a overflow or one of your other canisters.
Frank/Todd....

You need to RAISE the voltage produced to the fans... most will handle 16v and they will spin faster with more voltage. A boost step up regulator or a DC to DC converter on just the fan circuit. Your issue would be to find the voltage increase WITH the amperage required. You need 12v to 16v dc to dc with at least 30 amps output.

Be careful because some converters can't handle the load so you need to talk to someone that knows what you're trying to do and can supply the right converter.

Here's a quick "look" at what I'm referring to. I didn't do any research to find "THE ONE" that you would need (depending on the load - you may need one for each fan) -- this is just a beginning reference:

http://www.powerstream.com/dc2.htm
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Old 07-29-2010, 08:19 AM
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I agree, I have a one wire alternator and it doesn't need to charge that often so the voltage hangs around 12.8-13 volts most of the time. Not ideal for headlights or fans. I took it out last night and it stayed at 175-180 until I got to crusising around the 25mph streets and then it was only 195-205 when I parked it. With a 666hp big block in over 100 degrees heat, I'm happy with it. It's healthier for the engine anyway. It's about the only time I can get any oil temp in this thing on the street. Still had oil temps of 180 or so. When it's cool out I play hell getting any heat in this thing even with a 180 stat.
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Man Greg...... You know alot of zhit!!!!
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Man Greg...... You know alot of zhit!!!!
DUUUUDE! (as a buddy likes to say - LOL)... 40 years of doin' zhit.... somethin's got to stick even for a D.B. like me!
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If this guy named Greg is so damn smart then why didn't he call it an amplifier?
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If this guy named Greg is so damn smart then why didn't he call it an amplifier?
Because it isn't an amplifier An amplifer would multiply the 12 volts by a fixed value. If the 12 volts varies then so does the output. The regulator puts out 16 volts regardless of the input voltage (within it's stated input voltage range).

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