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Old 10-11-2010, 08:44 PM
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. Doug(Dfresh) and Dave(Flash) are staying with me for SEMA and they got assignments to work. I can play switch hitter.
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Old 10-12-2010, 07:48 AM
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Curtis --

Here's my 'take' on the situation.

Since we all know the rules - regardless of how late we feel they were posted - we were all treated equal. Some of us jumped on the chance to volunteer and emailed our choices ASAP so as to make the small field. I'd rather do a little bit to HELP (I wouldn't call this WORK) and be close to the action - than I would sit it out and whine about it. Everyone was given this choice to make. Help out, or sit it out.

Most all of us have a long travel time and effort to get to SEMA / OUSCI... and many had to modify their flights and hotels and rental cars etc. That was due to the late posting of this critical info. I was ready to cancel my entire SEMA trip if I'd not made the short list. Yes - I was very unhappy with the short notice. The airfare etc - hotel and blah blah blah would have needed to be changed - or used (boring - another day in Vegas after a week is not my choice for sure!) and paid for without the reward of being at this event.

My point is -- I could volunteer - QUICKLY - to make the short list - or try QUICKLY to hook up with a buddy to be car crew - or do nothing to try to remedy the situation and then be 'mad'.

I used to ask my employees when they'd complain about something.... "are you part of the problem, or part of the solution"? Since there are compelling reasons these rules had to be instituted there's nothing "we" can do to change them - so your only choice was to volunteer or hitch a ride... End of story.

Sorry, but you made your choice.
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Old 10-12-2010, 09:48 AM
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Curtis --

Here's my 'take' on the situation.

Since we all know the rules - regardless of how late we feel they were posted - we were all treated equal. Some of us jumped on the chance to volunteer and emailed our choices ASAP so as to make the small field. I'd rather do a little bit to HELP (I wouldn't call this WORK) and be close to the action - than I would sit it out and whine about it. Everyone was given this choice to make. Help out, or sit it out.

Most all of us have a long travel time and effort to get to SEMA / OUSCI... and many had to modify their flights and hotels and rental cars etc. That was due to the late posting of this critical info. I was ready to cancel my entire SEMA trip if I'd not made the short list. Yes - I was very unhappy with the short notice. The airfare etc - hotel and blah blah blah would have needed to be changed - or used (boring - another day in Vegas after a week is not my choice for sure!) and paid for without the reward of being at this event.

My point is -- I could volunteer - QUICKLY - to make the short list - or try QUICKLY to hook up with a buddy to be car crew - or do nothing to try to remedy the situation and then be 'mad'.

I used to ask my employees when they'd complain about something.... "are you part of the problem, or part of the solution"? Since there are compelling reasons these rules had to be instituted there's nothing "we" can do to change them - so your only choice was to volunteer or hitch a ride... End of story.

Sorry, but you made your choice.
Greg, I would tend to agree with you, for the most part, but I think you might be forgetting that there are probably a fair amount of people who simply wanted to "stop by" for several hours on their way out of town. Volunteering, and committing to being there for an entire day is a bit much for some people who I'm sure are heading back into CA or AZ and have to drive 5 hours after leaving Pahrump. I had to change my plans because I'm heading back with my dad, and he wouldn't want to have to be there for an entire day.

It is what it is this year, and I'm ok with that. I'd like Optima to be a great event for years to come, and I'm a little worried that the shift in policy on attendance, as well as in a couple other areas, might not be in the best interests of the majority of enthusiasts and supporting vendors.

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Old 10-12-2010, 09:58 AM
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Matt --

I think the biggest issue people are having is that this rules change was posted so late -- that people weren't able to modify plans etc... and I know I wasn't happy about that either.

BUT -- my point to Curtis is that he lives there - has no plans to really modify - and yet he's whining about having to work or miss the event. His situation is COMPLETELY different than almost everyone else's. He just chose not to want to volunteer - yet is posting up he's upset about it.

I'm not trying to start a fight over this - I was just saying that he made a choice. Most of us had to really put in extra effort or extra cost etc just in order to be there for this - period - regardless of whether or not we "wanted" to work. When given the chance to work to play - some of us chose to.

I'm really sorry for lots of guys - some of which have flown from AUSTRALIA - with family etc - and they've been effectively shut out. They can't change their plans or they have to make really hard choices about family etc. THAT to me is a different issue... and out of their control. Curtis had control and chose to not put out the effort.

Now I hope he doesn't want to punch me when we see each other!
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Old 10-12-2010, 10:26 AM
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Now I hope he doesn't want to punch me when we see each other!
I don't think you have to worry about that, you're on the list to get into the Spring Mountain Country Club. He can't touch you there.

While I too am upset with the late announcement, the organizers did what they had to do for this year given insurance, etc. Next however, I'd like to see some way of admitting spectators. I would think it would certainly be in the best interest of the other sponsors like RideTech and DSE who would have the opportunity to show off their products first hand to potential buyers from SEMA. My hope is that in future years the OUSCI does not sacrifice the close industry-enthusiast/buyer relationship it once enjoyed to focus instead on a television production.

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Old 10-12-2010, 03:11 PM
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What really SUCKS is that I didn't see this F'ing post till now. If not, I would have gladly volunteered.

Anybody needs a crew member.

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Old 10-12-2010, 04:21 PM
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This is exactly what Jody was saying. There might be a bunch of people show up that are not aware because of the very late notice, and not get in. That will not be good.
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Old 10-13-2010, 07:52 AM
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For those not able to watch from the ground, why not ask Greg if you can follow the racing up in Weld One?




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Old 10-13-2010, 10:28 AM
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DAMMIT!!!!

I was really looking forward to watching this.
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Old 10-13-2010, 11:34 AM
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Well Im glad I did not make plans to go out htis year. But then again I will not be ]back in the country until middle of Novmember. Sorry to guys that are dissappointed about this I know I would be upset. why doesnt everybody race at poleposition the indoor cart track then some fun before you leave and still kinda close to airport. Just a suggestion
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