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[syborg tt]

So, what do you all think. Should I keep publishing the as built shots, or stop for the off hand possibility of Ridler consideration?

It's to late, in order to be considered for the Ridler you are not allowed to post pics of the car during it's construction. Since you've already done that just keep posting the pics.

Plus if you stop posting pics then people will stop coming to this thread. Even if people don't post they are at least looking at the car.

[SN65]

Originally Posted by syborg tt

It's to late, in order to be considered for the Ridler you are not allowed to post pics of the car during it's construction. Since you've already done that just keep posting the pics.

Plus if you stop posting pics then people will stop coming to this thread. Even if people don't post they are at least looking at the car.

Hi S,

The rules are so vague. This is all it says and you can read it a hundred different ways.

1) The vehicle must make its first public showing at the Detroit Autorama. Showing the vehicle at any indoor or outdoor show or any part of the frame, engine or body will make it ineligible for contention.

2) Realizing that car owners and builders may need some form of exposure to develop interest or to gain sponsorship and give credit to suppliers and/or sponsors, magazine and video buildup coverage is allowed. No articles, video footage or stories with photos of the vehicle in finished form will be allowed until after the award has been presented, i.e. car cannot be painted or upholstered to be considered as finished.

In rule #2 it says that "...magazine and video buildup coverage is allowed". It also says that "No articles, video footage or stories with photos of the vehicle in finished form will be allowed..."

The question is, what is the finished form. Is it OK if you show a photo of the car totally assembled but unpainted. Is it OK to show a photo of the car totally painted but not completely assembled? Is it OK to show the exterior totally assembled but without the interior completed? What if everything was complete, but you did not have the bumperrs on. Is that OK?

I read the rule and, to me, it means that as long as the car is not 100% finished, it is OK to show photos.

The rule cannot possibly mean that no photos of any painted assemblies are allowed.

[syborg tt]

Thats a tuff one - i agree if you don't show the finished project to the Net then you should be okay. I have about 800 pictures of the build of the Grandmaster prior to it being unvailaled at Detroit. If you want to play it safe post all of your pics up till the completion and debut it at the show.

Your goal was to debut it at the show and i am certain that has not changed. If you play it safe and don't show the world the finished product then you could argue that you want to be considered.

[TravisB]

Originally Posted by SN65

The rule cannot possibly mean that no photos of any painted assemblies are allowed.

this is my understanding unfortunatly.

Have you ever been to detroit Bob? In all honesty what you have done is very cool and most would never think to do anything like it. You have executed it very well, and should be proud of what you have built. But even if the car was allowed to be entered it isn't going to be anythng the judges will be interested in.......looking back at the last 5 cars that have one...they have all been 750k + purpose built street rods that have taken years to complete that are only designed for one thing to win the riddler! However it is your decision I do hope to see it at detroit but if it were mine i'm not sure I would sign it up as a riddler entry...

[SN65]

Originally Posted by TravisB

this is my understanding unfortunatly. Have you ever been to detroit Bob? In all honesty what you have done is very cool and most would never think to do anything like it. You have executed it very well, and should be proud of what you have built. But even if the car was allowed to be entered it isn't going to be anythng the judges will be interested in.......looking back at the last 5 cars that have one...they have all been 750k + purpose built street rods that have taken years to complete that are only designed for one thing to win the riddler! However it is your decision I do hope to see it at detroit but if it were mine i'm not sure I would sign it up as a riddler entry...

Hi T,

Thank you for the kind words.

I agree with your comment about "But even if the car was allowed to be entered it isn't going to be anythng the judges will be interested in" I have looked back over the winners over the past 25 years and custom street rods are king.

I really did not have any expectations as far as actually winning. But I have noticed that they do tend to select a car other than a street rod for the great 8. That would be my greatest achievment to date. For examples sake, the car that won the Good Guys street machine of the year was a Ridler finalist.

Also, I love custom street rods as much as the next guy, but honestly, isn't there a 60's 70's 80's 90's custom car built that has just as much "creativity, engineering and workmanship". As far as the Autoramma is concerned, only two cars (a pro street Grand Am and a custom Mercedies <sp>) were deserving of the award.

It is time for builders of our types of cars to push the envelope. Our cars are just as creative, just as complex and exhibit just quality worksmanship. Isn't part of "creativity" coming up with something different. Breaking new ground. Taking a different slant on old trends.

How about building a street rod that meets all of todays production requirements. If Detroit were produceing street rods today, what would they be like? If WWII never happened, what would the cars of the 50's been like. If the fuel crissis never happend, what would the cars of the 70's been like.

Regardless of cost, it is time for us to show that our cars can show just as "creativity, engineering and workmanship" as any 30's street rod.

[Smack_talker]

Detroit did build a late model "street rod"...the Prowler. It didnt sell very well. I agree that muscle cars or sixties cars dont get any respect for the Riddler. If its not a street rod they dont get it. I think your car is a great out of the box example. I would love to see it in person someday.

[SN65]

Originally Posted by Smack_talker

Detroit did build a late model "street rod"...the Prowler. It didnt sell very well. I agree that muscle cars or sixties cars dont get any respect for the Riddler. If its not a street rod they dont get it. I think your car is a great out of the box example. I would love to see it in person someday.

Hi S,

The Prowler. I had totally forgot about that car.

That is the perfect example.

Imagine if Dodge never built the Prowler. Imagine if, instead, that car were built by one of us. A car that incorporated all the functions and features of the Prowler and built in a way that simulated factory construction. A custom car that satisfies ALL of the current production car requirements. A custom car that in fact could actually be built on a production basis. Imagine taking it to the Autoramma making the great 8 and then taking the Ridler.

That would be something different. IMO that would be a car deserving of the Ridler.

[TonyG]

Didn't Chip Foose build a street rod that was AWD here a few yrs back.. Looked similar to a Prowler red/silver if I remember correctly. Actually, I don't think it was Foose that built it. I don't remember..lol