DSE vs TCI vs Art Morrison

[youthpastor]

great thread

[Bobs 67Camaro]

Has anyone been in a TCI car with the softer rate springs? When tested, they were 450/325# (back in 09), now they are 350/250? Would it be similar ride quality to the speedtech 450/220 set-up?

Thanks

[BRIAN]

I think the problem with the whole subframe debate is people buying them for the wrong reason or buying what is supposedly talked about as being the best thing since sliced cheese. Remember when if you didn't have a Wayne Due frame you couldn't turn a corner?? But then he mysteriously disappeared.

I know there is probably no way to do a part to part comparision but a guide with real answers side by side would help.

Weight of frame fully loaded?
Ride height adjustment?
Total caster and camber adjustment?
what type and style of bushings used?
What type of rack?
What brakes adaptable to spindle?
Type of sway bar and adjustability?

Those are just a few. If you do not know what you need out of the above you are probably just buying because it is a shiny new expensive must have part. Let's not forget many a race won modifying stock parts. The subframes give you the ability to get to that point faster and easier.

Would I buy a subframe that uses cheap ultra small Mustang 2 bushings? No Would I buy a subframe that uses heim joints throughout on a real driven car? No.

There is no winner unless you know what you want. If you want a slammed on the ground never ran car there are also plenty of options.

[Bobs 67Camaro]

Brian,

What suspension systems do you run? (what car do you have)

What purpose does you car serve, and why did you choose the parts that you used?

[slow4dr]

Originally Posted by Bobs 67Camaro

Has anyone been in a TCI car with the softer rate springs? When tested, they were 450/325# (back in 09), now they are 350/250? Would it be similar ride quality to the speedtech 450/220 set-up?

Thanks

Have you ridden in a stock suspension LX or LY SRT8? They have a very comparable ride quality with the 350/250 springs.

[Bobs 67Camaro]

Slow4dr,

I have not ridden in one, but would imagine the ride is firm, but compliant. Not something that would wear on someone too badly.

I also do road trips with my car, so a decent ride is important to me (300-500 miles in a weekend).

Thank you for the input, I appreciate it.

[GrabberGT]

I have Total Control Products Front Coil-Over suspension and the TCI torque-arm rear with springs rates 450/250. Though I cant yet comment on the performance driving aspects of the ride, the cruising side is comfortable. My cars weight is 3300lbs with driver and a full tank of gas with 51/49 split if that helps.

[Bobs 67Camaro]

Have you been happy with their coil overs (did you get the singles or the doubles?)

Thanks

[GrabberGT]

Originally Posted by Bobs 67Camaro

Have you been happy with their coil overs (did you get the singles or the doubles?)

Thanks

Singles. Still getting to know them.

[Bobs 67Camaro]

GrabberGT,

Are you running the TCI Coil overs? If so, how do they compare to the ridetechs or QA1's?

Thanks