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6D9 · #1 03-01-2011, 11:17 PM

Great pics! Glad to see the car ran hard and you guys had a good time. Hope to meet up with you guys one of these days....

Bow Tie 67 · #2 03-01-2011, 11:53 PM

Todd it was nice to meet in person. The body roll looks bad, but honestly I watched closely and DSE's cars, Rupps and Finch all had roll going into the 180 on the autocross. ( at least the rear of the cars ) I have talked with Brian and he is running 450 lb springs up front. Personally I like the way stiffer springs feel and handle. I'm not to good at auto-cross and think seat time and shock adjustments will help. Does your front sway bar have adjustment? I run mine stiff as well as the rear. Your car looked great and you were pushing it hard.

Vegas69 · #3 03-02-2011, 07:24 AM

Thanks guys!

My front bar isn't adjustable but I can buy a larger splined bar. I've changed it once already. My first step is sending the shocks in for the dyno time. I had the car 1 click from full stiff and it still road as good as any factory car I've ever drove. I have a feeling they need some work. If they don't, I may order a hollow sway bar or smaller diameter bar for the rear. I had to throw a bunch of compression in the rear shocks to make the car loose enough to get around the auto cross and road race. Car actually felt good except in the slow speed autocross corners and tight road course section at the end. The main thing is, I'm sneaking back up on my car. The R888's simply covered up a lack of chassis tuning. I really feel the car is faster in autocross and the road race now with street tires. That is the beauty of street tread, you are forced to make your car better instead of relying on rubber. This being my first event with the new springs, I'm happy with the results. There is no doubt my performance was better than the Optima Challenge.

**GregWeld** · #4 03-02-2011, 07:36 AM

It would be fun to have some of the top guys drive these cars around the X and the RC and see what kind of times they can do with the car "as is"... and then give the owner a "well... it's a bit this or that" kind of report. That way an owner would have a base time the car is capable of and can shoot for that. Most of this --- and I saw it all day long --- is seat time. As the guys learned the course the times started to fall -- same car -- same driver... and not much "tuning"... except the driver was getting tuned up.

Look what Nathan did with Bad Penny.... That now tells Steve, or anyone else in the seat, what the car can do.

Vegas69 · #5 03-02-2011, 07:49 AM

I've thought of that but would really like to drive a top car through the autocross sometime as well. Blake and I were going to swap cars but it didn't happen. I was burn't and not crazy about sailing their car through those cones at 100mph.

chr2002ca · #6 03-02-2011, 08:23 AM

Your car was blazing out there as usual Todd. Thanks for continuing to properly represent the carbureted big-block crew.

It was great hanging out with you and Kelly at the track and at Doug's party. Hopefully we can do it again shortly. I only had 1 beer so I wasn't too far behind you and the tea brigade. As long as I don't catch you eating hummus and reading a romance novel.

I did get some video of one of your AutoX runs on Saturday afternoon(along with Doug, Dave, and few others) and I'll be posting those shortly.

**Flash68** · #7 03-02-2011, 08:24 AM

Great pics Todd/Kelli. I like the road course splash pics best.

Still lots of improvement left that in that car as you work toward closing the gap to the heavy hitters. Congrats on the great road course showing buddy!

Ron in SoCal · #8 03-02-2011, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld

It would be fun to have some of the top guys drive these cars around the X and the RC and see what kind of times they can do with the car "as is"... and then give the owner a "well... it's a bit this or that" kind of report. That way an owner would have a base time the car is capable of and can shoot for that. Most of this --- and I saw it all day long --- is seat time. As the guys learned the course the times started to fall -- same car -- same driver... and not much "tuning"... except the driver was getting tuned up.

Look what Nathan did with Bad Penny.... That now tells Steve, or anyone else in the seat, what the car can do.

That's a great suggestion Greg. I'd add, we now have RTTC type events/road course classes/SCCA AutoX at our disposal, what's missing is an opportunity to tune our chasis with the experts. You know, a day w the Pozzis or Doug @ GW who really know these car's have the tools on-site and potentially replacement parts to try out and compare. That is one exercise I'd show up for...(assuming my bucket was running)

Oh yeah, Todd you were smoikin' out there! Good to see you again Bro...