So, let's say you order a large amount of parts...

[ModernMuseum]

Originally Posted by Flash68

I can understand specific parts becoming delayed for valid reasons for a 3rd party, but if ALL various parts are delayed, that is a scary one there as I see it. But I think one would need more details of your exact situation and timeframes of communication before really opining.

Since the parts ordered were pretty much as referenced in the original post, I think there's enough information to make a rough assessment. I may post up details later after I've received a few more opinions.

[Flash68]

Best of luck. Sucks to be in that situation for sure.

[ModernMuseum]

Originally Posted by Flash68

Best of luck. Sucks to be in that situation for sure.

Thanks, man. Yes, yes it does-especially since it's one of the major and most advertised vendors here and over at pro-touring.

[130fe]

Have you been in contact with the vendor you bought the parts from? What are they telling you?

[ModernMuseum]

Thanks for the replies, gents. I assume that this stuff can be procured/work executed at most in two months.

Originally Posted by 130fe

Have you been in contact with the vendor you bought the parts from? What are they telling you?

Yes, weekly to twice per week. The initial order was placed in September 2010. 60% was paid in Sept. and the rest was paid in October. Everything was supposed to be here "before Christmas." The vendor pretty much has said "Yes, this is coming, yes, this is shipped and it'll be there by the end of this week or it'll be there next week." Then, it never shows. More expediting, same story, a few more parts trickle in (rinse, repeat for a few months) but I can't install the engine/tranny because a few key components aren't in. In a sitcom, it would be almost comical because the Vendor doesn't even know what I have/haven't received, so I'll have to call and say, "Yes, the kit came, but only about 25% of the stuff in the kit was there." Essentially, all the work that I thought I could get done over the winter during the cool months can't/didn't get done.

Originally Posted by 509Chevelle

First, it would have to be Jesus Christ for me to give anybody $20k in total on any business venture that isn't complete. Second, I would never give the total amount down...ever! I don't care how well respected a business is. That's just the nature of the business. Now 25%-30% is ok. 50% at most in an extreme case after sitting down with a dealer/vendor on a conference call or something after assuring me all parts are available. Now me personally, I don't even see an LS (plus parts) and T56 even being a 2-3 month out order. You can go all the way to the moon and find that stuff. IMO, by giving the 25%-30% down would make or should make the vendor work more diligent and be more eager to get your parts in so he can get the rest of his money.

Yes, agree and a valuable and hard lesson was learned. There's no incentive for them to deliver if you don't withhold partial payments. However, I've heard from other people on totally different forums that sometimes middle men vendors won't place orders until fully paid. That's actually how we do it in the engineering/construction business. We withhold the final payment until all documentation is received.

Originally Posted by Stuart Adams

When buying parts from so called buying groups, smoozers, middle man , vendors, etc., we all need to be very careful. The economy is tight and we as customers need to be sure the money we are putting down for our parts are NOT paying for the previous guys parts. IMO.

Very true. That thought has crossed my mind, along with:
1) Vendor is very busy and *ahem* doesn't have time to expedite/deliver parts/track the order
2) Vendor doesn't have the money to order parts because they're behind on bills
3) Parts are back-ordered (very unlikely for some of the parts missing)

I'm a pretty docile guy, but I just want my parts so I can finish my project. I also would really like to prevent this thing from happening to someone else so they're not left with their pants around their ankles for six months waiting on an ECU/wiring harness/flywheel/clutch stuff/ac compressor/water pump that could seemingly easily be ordered from someone else.

Who knows, maybe Christian holidays are good milestones to have things done, because Easter is just around the corner, so maybe I'll have the parts by then. Whenever I clicked my heels and set out for LS-land, I had no idea this was going to be part of the bargain.

And yeah, OOCustoms, I don't like to be a whistle blower, but you can ctrl-f here and there and find out who it is pretty easily. You may be surprised, but then again you may not.

[skatinjay27]

Another one here with the "6 months is crary" hpefully you get your parts soon and still out the vendor...because even if they make right on it and get your parts asap they still wasted your time that you can't get back... I was thinking its the exact opposite location of cali...

[Van B]

I have my guess and I hope (unlike the other threads) that some day we find out who the vendor is.

[ModernMuseum]

Originally Posted by Van B

I have my guess and I hope (unlike the other threads) that some day we find out who the vendor is.

I don't want to give away the name yet, but it shouldn't be too hard to figure out.

[Richio1]

^^ AJ, I'm thinkin the same thing. I had the same experience ordering a Moser rearend. I call to get PT advise and bought the story that he can get me his "special" 4 link rearend I need to go with my airride set up. "takes Moser 3 days to turn one around and ship it" he says. I pay him the 3k to order it. Three days later no tracking # so I email. No response. After a week I call. No call back. Fortunetly I took notes while we were talking and had the guys name he orders through at Moser so after 2 weeks I call Moser. The guy tells me he has no order from him or in my name or to my ship to address. I call "OO" back leaving a stern message that I need an update on my order status mentioning I called Moser and they dont have my order. He calls back, leaving a vm, saying they (moser) are out or 4 link brackets so it is delayed a couple days. The next week I call Moser again and he tells me again that they still don't have the order. I then call F again and call bullsh!t on his story telling him that Moser said they still don't have the order. No call, no email or anything... but that Monday I get a call from Moser telling me they just got the order and it would go out on Wed which it did... Oh and he tells me that they are never out of 4 link brackets. I think fs is full of bs

I will tell you that I have had fantastic service and support from the group a Matt's Classic Bowties. They are about an hour away and since I want to keep the business local I have given them all the business I can. Plus if I ever needed to "drop in" I could. Have never had to so I'm stickin with them.

Best of luck... but why look out for your vendors interest when they obviously aren't looking out for yours!?!?

[214Chevy]

Originally Posted by Richio1

^^ AJ, I'm thinkin the same thing. I had the same experience ordering a Moser rearend. I call to get PT advise and bought the story that he can get me his "special" 4 link rearend I need to go with my airride set up. "takes Moser 3 days to turn one around and ship it" he says. I pay him the 3k to order it. Three days later no tracking # so I email. No response. After a week I call. No call back. Fortunetly I took notes while we were talking and had the guys name he orders through at Moser so after 2 weeks I call Moser. The guy tells me he has no order from him or in my name or to my ship to address. I call "OO" back leaving a stern message that I need an update on my order status mentioning I called Moser and they dont have my order. He calls back, leaving a vm, saying they (moser) are out or 4 link brackets so it is delayed a couple days. The next week I call Moser again and he tells me again that they still don't have the order. I then call F again and call bullsh!t on his story telling him that Moser said they still don't have the order. No call, no email or anything... but that Monday I get a call from Moser telling me they just got the order and it would go out on Wed which it did... Oh and he tells me that they are never out of 4 link brackets. I think fs is full of bs

I will tell you that I have had fantastic service and support from the group a Matt's Classic Bowties. They are about an hour away and since I want to keep the business local I have given them all the business I can. Plus if I ever needed to "drop in" I could. Have never had to so I'm stickin with them.

Best of luck... but why look out for your vendors interest when they obviously aren't looking out for yours!?!?

Ding...ding...ding...ding...ding!!!!!! Hahahahahahaha!! You are a very smart man...oh, wise one. Now, if guys don't figure it out now I don't know what to say. I will say this, that I am very surprised as I thought such said vendor was on the up and up from the looks of the support and recommendations he has received from this site.