...

Go Back   Lateral-g Forums > Technical Discussions > Cooling: Radiators/Fans/Controllers
User Name
Password



Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-24-2011, 12:47 PM
Mkelcy's Avatar
Mkelcy Mkelcy is offline
Supporting Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Walla Walla, WA
Posts: 566
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default

There's also a two output temperature sender from an LS1 Camaro that may work. This was the first link I found with part numbers: http://www.ls1truck.com/forums/lsx-t...re-sensor.html
__________________
Mike - '68 Camaro with some stuff done to it
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-25-2011, 03:53 AM
marks914's Avatar
marks914 marks914 is offline
Regular User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: The Motor City
Posts: 179
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Yes for any setup you probably will have to run 3 senders, each has their own ohms range. But 2 should be in the engione, one in the radiator (fans)
Mark
__________________
www.newvintageusa.com
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-25-2011, 06:14 AM
79 Camaro 79 Camaro is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 143
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts
Default

The other solution is to weld a pipe thread bung into the radiator assuming it's aluminum. I did that on one of my LS swaps. Placed it down near the bottom of the tank on the drivers side. Welding shop charged me about $25 for some pretty tig welding.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-25-2011, 08:43 AM
Chris442 Chris442 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 18
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

If you want to run those three things, you'll need 3 senders. It's worth noting that the ECU is capable of PWM fan control; all Corvettes have had it since 05. I have this set up with an LS7 in a '68 Camaro. I also use an A/C pressure sensor for the computer to run the fans for that. Without going into too much detail, you'd need the PWM module from a Corvette to make it work and be able to set, or have somebody set, the computer to work it.

As to the third location for a sender, I used the block drain above the starter, but haven't had great success getting accurate readings. It's good until the engine is warm, then it keeps going an extra 20-30* from the ambient heat down there. It could be that the adapter I've used for the sender has it too far out of the water flow to read right, but I haven't tried to fix it yet. Basically buyer beware on using there to read.

Another option I've see is drilling and tapping the water pump by the thermostat, IIRC. I've never tried it, so no first hand experience there.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-25-2011, 08:52 AM
camcojb's Avatar
camcojb camcojb is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Wilton, CA.
Posts: 13,281
Thanks: 6,887
Thanked 2,117 Times in 972 Posts
Default

I have never needed three senders for the three things. Every ECU I've used has a fan control built in, and it uses the same coolant temp sender for the ECU and for determining when to ground the fan relay, controlling the fan.

If your computer doesn't have fan control then the above ideas will work fine.
__________________
Jody

PAST CAR PROJECTS

Like Lateral-G on Facebook!

Follow Lateral-G on Instagram!

SPECIAL THANKS TO:
Jacob Ehlers and Amsoil for the lubricants and degreasers for my 70 Chevelle project
Shannon at Modo Innovations for the cool billet DBW bracket
Roadster Shop for their Chevelle SPEC Chassis
Dakota Digital for their Chevelle HDX Gauge Package
Painless Performance for their wiring harness

Ron Davis Radiators for their radiator and fan assembly.
Baer Brakes for their front and rear brakes

Texas Speed and Performance for their 427 LS Stroker
American Powertrain for their ProFit Magnum T56 kit
Currie Enterprises for their 9" Third Member
Forgeline for their GF3 Wheels
McLeod Racing for their RXT street twin clutch
Ididit for their steering column
Holley for their EFI and engine parts
Lokar and Clayton Machine for their pedals and door and window handles
Morris Classic Concepts for their 3 point belts and side mirrors
Thermotec for their heat sleeve and sound deadening products
Restomod Air for their Tru Mod A/C kit
Mightymouse Solutions for their catch can
Magnaflow for their 3" exhaust system
Aeromotive for their dual Phantom fuel system
Vintage Air for their new Mid Mount LS front drive
Hydratech Braking for their hydroboost system
Borgeson for their stainless steering shaft and u joints
Eddie Motorsports for their hood and trunk hinges and misc parts
TMI Products for their seats, door panels, and dash pad
Rock Valley Antique Auto Parts for their stainless fuel tank
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-25-2011, 12:53 PM
BonzoHansen's Avatar
BonzoHansen BonzoHansen is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Hamilton, NJ 08619
Posts: 453
Thanks: 126
Thanked 63 Times in 44 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris442 View Post
If you want to run those three things, you'll need 3 senders. It's worth noting that the ECU is capable of PWM fan control; all Corvettes have had it since 05. I have this set up with an LS7 in a '68 Camaro. I also use an A/C pressure sensor for the computer to run the fans for that. Without going into too much detail, you'd need the PWM module from a Corvette to make it work and be able to set, or have somebody set, the computer to work it.
that's pretty wild I did not know that. Only corvettes get that?
__________________
Scott from NJ

Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold
I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-25-2011, 04:02 PM
Chris442 Chris442 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 18
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BonzoHansen View Post
that's pretty wild I did not know that. Only corvettes get that?
That's all I know about, for sure. I can say for certain that G8s, GTOs and new Camaros don't have it, though. Based on what's available in HPTuners, I'd guess it could be made to work with any of those computers, but I've never tried it.

It's been working great on the Camaro for the last 3 years and 15k+ for me. With the big Ron Davis and dual Spals, you rarely hear the fans run, since they're almost never at 100%.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-25-2011, 09:10 PM
BonzoHansen's Avatar
BonzoHansen BonzoHansen is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Hamilton, NJ 08619
Posts: 453
Thanks: 126
Thanked 63 Times in 44 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris442 View Post
That's all I know about, for sure. I can say for certain that G8s, GTOs and new Camaros don't have it, though. Based on what's available in HPTuners, I'd guess it could be made to work with any of those computers, but I've never tried it.

It's been working great on the Camaro for the last 3 years and 15k+ for me. With the big Ron Davis and dual Spals, you rarely hear the fans run, since they're almost never at 100%.
I have a DCC in my car and even with one of the fan motors having a bad bearing I still don't hear them. At idle on a 90* day they hover around 6-7 volts. I had no idea GM was using PWM.
__________________
Scott from NJ

Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold
I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:58 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright Lateral-g.net