Can't Lower Car w/ G-Bar System

[TheJDMan]

The car is not operational yet so I cannot tell you how it rides. Just FYI, the Prodigy bar and the G-Link are the same thing and both are manufactured by Alliston's Chassisworks.

[Vegas69]

Originally Posted by TheJDMan

The car is not operational yet so I cannot tell you how it rides. Just FYI, the Prodigy bar and the G-Link are the same thing and both are manufactured by Alliston's Chassisworks.

That's not correct. The G Bar was a joint venture between Air Ride and Chris Alston. Basically and air bar with varishocks. The prodigy bar is the same but with QA1 end links everywhere except the front spring pocket. The G Link is a fresh design from Chris Alston solely.

[TheJDMan]

Originally Posted by Vegas69

That's not correct. The G Bar was a joint venture between Air Ride and Chris Alston. Basically and air bar with varishocks. The prodigy bar is the same but with QA1 end links everywhere except the front spring pocket. The G Link is a fresh design from Chris Alston solely.

What I can tell you is that I purchased a Prodigy bar from Frank and what arrived was the G-Link from Alston. That tells me that what Frank is selling as the Prodigy Bar is actually the G-Link. That said, I understand this suspension has been undergoing a number of improvements recently.

[realcoray]

Originally Posted by TheJDMan

What I can tell you is that I purchased a Prodigy bar from Frank and what arrived was the G-Link from Alston. That tells me that what Frank is selling as the Prodigy Bar is actually the G-Link. That said, I understand this suspension has been undergoing a number of improvements recently.

You mean G-Bar. There are two different generations of Alston things, the G-Bar which is what the Prodigy Bar is based off of, and the G-Link which is similar but different.

The G-link doesn't need it's bearings changed in general because they have spherical already (except maybe the lowest variant). The Cradle is vastly different and I believe offers much more adjustment.

[TheJDMan]

Originally Posted by realcoray

You mean G-Bar. There are two different generations of Alston things, the G-Bar which is what the Prodigy Bar is based off of, and the G-Link which is similar but different.

The G-link doesn't need it's bearings changed in general because they have spherical already (except maybe the lowest variant). The Cradle is vastly different and I believe offers much more adjustment.

No, G-link!!! Frank sold me what he called his Prodigy 4 link. As I stated previously, what arrived was the Alston G-Link (NOT a G-Bar). BTW, the yellow section of the spring is a take up spring from Speedway Motors. This keeps tension on the upper spring retainer when the suspension is unloaded. The take-up spring became necessary when I swiched to the shorter 8-200 springs.

[onevoice]

Originally Posted by TheJDMan

No, G-link!!! Frank sold me what he called his Prodigy 4 link. As I stated previously, what arrived was the Alston G-Link (NOT a G-Bar). BTW, the yellow section of the spring is a take up spring from Speedway Motors. This keeps tension on the upper spring retainer when the suspension is unloaded. The take-up spring became necessary when I swiched to the shorter 8-200 springs.

In the interest of people searching this in the future, do you have 8-200 springs, or 10-200? You said 10-200 earlier in the thread.

Also for reference, the Prodigy Bar was produced when the only option was the g-bar, or air rides version, both of which had poly bushings. Frank sold what was a g-bar that had been modified to have swivel links. He also at one time sold a kit to do the modification yourself, it included the swivel links and taps. When the G-link came out, there was no reason to do the modification, because the G-link was essentially the same thing

An interesting thing I noticed was that there is evidently different adjustment holes in the g-link brackets. The first pic has 5 adjustment holes. The second picture has 6 adjustment holes. Both are the bolt on mounts.






In the below picture, with the shock bottomed out(on the 5 hole axle bracket), the axle isn't against the frame, but notice that you can see where the factory axle bumper was attached. There isn't much room under there, and getting into the factory rubber bumper too hard will let the axle kiss the floorpan.



That is why the DSE 4link has the shock mount that cuts out so much of the factory floor, it is to provide axle clearance when the axle tube is bottomed out.

[John510]

Wow Im having this same issuer right now with my car not going as low as I want it.

Looks like I need smaller springs.

[TheJDMan]

Originally Posted by barraza

In the interest of people searching this in the future, do you have 8-200 springs, or 10-200? You said 10-200 earlier in the thread.

My Bad! That was a typo which I corrected. I'm running 8-200 springs. The G-Link was delivered with 12-200 springs.

[Vegas69]

Originally Posted by TheJDMan

What I can tell you is that I purchased a Prodigy bar from Frank and what arrived was the G-Link from Alston. That tells me that what Frank is selling as the Prodigy Bar is actually the G-Link. That said, I understand this suspension has been undergoing a number of improvements recently.

I'd have to talk to Frank but what I said is on the money since I can't imagine Frank is making any changes to the G Link. It has the trick end links and adjustments.

The Prodigy Bar is a G Bar with different end links that will last. I tore out the factory end links my 1st autocross.

[DEIGuy38]

I'm not sure what Frank has but the major difference is the Chassisworks g-bar has poly bushings for the end links the Chassiworks g-link has pivot balls for the end links. Both systems are available with either air springs or coil overs

http://cachassisworks.com/c-340-cama...gm-f-body.aspx