JCG Restoration & Customs Project Blu Balz

[Track Junky]

Man that car is pretty . Awesome interior, engine compartment, etc, etc..

Are you not running a passenger seat?

Also wondering why the car is so heavy. Your an easy 600 lbs heavier than me. I always thought the 67's and 68's were alot lighter than the '69's.

Casanova claims to be around 3600 also.

[Ron in SoCal]

Originally Posted by Track Junky

Man that car is pretty . Awesome interior, engine compartment, etc, etc..

Yeah man...

For whatever reason, the Mustang Dyno often reads 20-30 HP lower than Dynojet/Superflow. I've been in that car and it hauls balls, so you're probably at 600 at the crank. Not bad Cris! Can you post up a Torque curve?

[tones2SS]

Man that engine bay is very nice.

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal

Yeah man...

For whatever reason, the Mustang Dyno often reads 20-30 HP lower than Dynojet/Superflow. I've been in that car and it hauls balls, so you're probably at 600 at the crank. Not bad Cris! Can you post up a Torque curve?

It has been tested and proven that the MUSTANG DYNO measures more accurately than a Dynojet... So if "lower" is a bad thing --- I'd say I'd rather have more accurate readings than just the garage bragging rights of a false higher number.

I won't thread jack with a dyno discussion -- and I didn't cut and paste all the resulting documentation - but this test is just one of many...

West Automotive Performance Engineering has developed a proprietary device that independently measures a vehicle's actual speed and acceleration. This device is similar in operation to a fifth wheel but doesn't use accelerometers that can be influenced by the vehicle's body tilt. Using the vehicle's speed, acceleration, and weight (mass) and the application of simple physics equations, the exact horsepower and torque can be calculated. The horsepower and torque measured by West Automotive Performance Engineering's dyno is actually the horsepower made-good, or the horsepower left over to accelerate the vehicle after all the aerodynamic and rolling-friction losses have been overcome. These losses were accounted for and included West Automotive Performance Engineering's dyno so that a comparison with a chassis dynamometer can be made. The Mustang dyno includes the aerodynamic load that it places on the drivetrain as part of its reported rear-wheel horsepower and torque. Stated another way, the Mustang dyno does not measure the horsepower made-good.
Graphs 7 and 10 show the horsepower and torque versus rpm in Second and Third gear, respectively, for the Dynojet dyno, the Mustang dyno, and from road testing with the dyno from West Automotive Performance Engineering. You can see that the horsepower and the torque, as measured on the road, are closer to the Mustang dyno measurements. Also from the acceleration tests you can see how the Mustang dyno loads the vehicle very closely to how it will be actually loaded on the road. Based on our test data, the Mustang dyno loaded our test vehicle and measured the rearwheel horsepower closer to what the vehicle experiences on the road.

[tmadden]

Engine bay is neat and clean. Very well done.

[Ron in SoCal]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

It has been tested and proven that the MUSTANG DYNO measures more accurately than a Dynojet... So if "lower" is a bad thing --- I'd say I'd rather have more accurate readings than just the garage bragging rights of a false higher number.

I won't thread jack with a dyno discussion -- and I didn't cut and paste all the resulting documentation - but this test is just one of many...

West Automotive Performance Engineering has developed a proprietary device that independently measures a vehicle's actual speed and acceleration. This device is similar in operation to a fifth wheel but doesn't use accelerometers that can be influenced by the vehicle's body tilt. Using the vehicle's speed, acceleration, and weight (mass) and the application of simple physics equations, the exact horsepower and torque can be calculated. The horsepower and torque measured by West Automotive Performance Engineering's dyno is actually the horsepower made-good, or the horsepower left over to accelerate the vehicle after all the aerodynamic and rolling-friction losses have been overcome. These losses were accounted for and included West Automotive Performance Engineering's dyno so that a comparison with a chassis dynamometer can be made. The Mustang dyno includes the aerodynamic load that it places on the drivetrain as part of its reported rear-wheel horsepower and torque. Stated another way, the Mustang dyno does not measure the horsepower made-good.
Graphs 7 and 10 show the horsepower and torque versus rpm in Second and Third gear, respectively, for the Dynojet dyno, the Mustang dyno, and from road testing with the dyno from West Automotive Performance Engineering. You can see that the horsepower and the torque, as measured on the road, are closer to the Mustang dyno measurements. Also from the acceleration tests you can see how the Mustang dyno loads the vehicle very closely to how it will be actually loaded on the road. Based on our test data, the Mustang dyno loaded our test vehicle and measured the rearwheel horsepower closer to what the vehicle experiences on the road.

Is that opinion or fact? j/k!

Good stuff Greg!

[Vegas69]

Not bad for a weak big block.

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal

Is that opinion or fact? j/k!

Good stuff Greg!

I was going to buy a dyno for my shed.... so did some thorough investigating. The definitive answer is = nobody really knows.

The right answer is -- dyno's are used for TUNING -- and if the numbers get bigger when you make a change - then you're headed in the right direction. That's how they should be used.

Having said that -- the numbers are always fun!

That's a fact.

[GregWeld]

btw -- Killer Build Cris!

[Flash68]

Yeah she's a little dirty in there Cris. Come on.

How many and where are all your nozzles on the fire system?