Vapor Works tank?

[randy]

$1600??? outch. Mine will have a ls2 in it and will need to be able to fit my quadralink that is already installed

[DETON8R]

Originally Posted by randy

$1600??? outch. Mine will have a ls2 in it and will need to be able to fit my quadralink that is already installed

DITTO!!!

I've been looking at several different posts and I'm wondering what is the difference in the various tanks, as the cost seems to be really-really wide.

From Summit Racing - Rick's tank, Stainless, for a mild LS1 build - about $1200.
From DSE - Stainless tank for a mild LS1 Build - about $1150 (I've seen on other postings that DSE gets their tanks from Rock Valley, don't know if it is true....)
Ricks Vapor Works - $1600 - From above.
Spectra - Stamped steel/OEM with fuel pump and sender that is similar to OEM pump assembly - $450-600 depending on options.
OEM style Stainless tank with in tank EFI pump - $800 - similar to Spectra

Now I realize there are also custom tanks for high horsepower set ups, and some pumps can easily cost $600 to $1000, then you need to factor in the cost of the tank. But for an LS1/LS2/LS3 with less than 600 HP that will mostly be driven on the street, and might see some auto cross or a drag strip periodically, what is the benefit of purchasing a $1600 tank when a $1200 or even a $600 tank will do??

And I do get that a stainless tank has benefits over stamped steel, don't get me wrong. And I've heard that the spectra tanks has issues before they reworked their baffles/sump, but that is now fixed. Retrofuel and tanks inc seem to be able to modify (or sell mod kits) for existing tanks.

Some help here would be much appreciated....

[Vegas69]

Fuel control similar to your daily driver tank. Fuel starvation is no bueno with fuel injection.

[John510]

Originally Posted by DETON8R

DITTO!!!

But for an LS1/LS2/LS3 with less than 600 HP that will mostly be driven on the street, and might see some auto cross or a drag strip periodically, what is the benefit of purchasing a $1600 tank when a $1200 or even a $600 tank will do??

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The vaporworx tank has 2 pickups. One on each side of the tank. Basically it has all of the internals of a 2010 camaro tank. If your running a modern motor then get a modern tank.

Sure you can buy cheaper tank with a single pickup and save some cash. But if you plan on auto crossing or doing other hard driving then I would get the vaporworx. It is only a 400$ difference compared to a regular ricks tank. It will run way better when your low on fuel.

Oh and Did I mention that with the Vaporworx tank you don't need to run a return fuel line? Yeah thats worth some time and money .

[wellis77]

I ordered my Vaporworx stuff direct from Carl and had it sent to my fabricator who, using my specs, designed and built a custom stainless tank from 14 ga. stainless for less than the cost of a standard Rick's Tank. They were awesome to work with and gave me exactly what I needed. The cost for me to have a custom tank built by Rick's, with Vaporworx, would have been more than the $1600 mentioned, I saved $200-$300 off the $1600. PM me and I can give you the contact details and send you pics of my completed tank. Also, see my build thread for pics, link in sig.

[Flash68]

Originally Posted by DETON8R

DITTO!!!

I've been looking at several different posts and I'm wondering what is the difference in the various tanks, as the cost seems to be really-really wide.

From Summit Racing - Rick's tank, Stainless, for a mild LS1 build - about $1200.
From DSE - Stainless tank for a mild LS1 Build - about $1150 (I've seen on other postings that DSE gets their tanks from Rock Valley, don't know if it is true....)
Ricks Vapor Works - $1600 - From above.
Spectra - Stamped steel/OEM with fuel pump and sender that is similar to OEM pump assembly - $450-600 depending on options.
OEM style Stainless tank with in tank EFI pump - $800 - similar to Spectra

Now I realize there are also custom tanks for high horsepower set ups, and some pumps can easily cost $600 to $1000, then you need to factor in the cost of the tank. But for an LS1/LS2/LS3 with less than 600 HP that will mostly be driven on the street, and might see some auto cross or a drag strip periodically, what is the benefit of purchasing a $1600 tank when a $1200 or even a $600 tank will do??

And I do get that a stainless tank has benefits over stamped steel, don't get me wrong. And I've heard that the spectra tanks has issues before they reworked their baffles/sump, but that is now fixed. Retrofuel and tanks inc seem to be able to modify (or sell mod kits) for existing tanks.

Some help here would be much appreciated....

Very cool.

There is also a new Aeromotive stamped tank coming out soon that sounds promising for those on a budget.

[ccracin]

I also built my own tank using parts and information supplied by Vaporworx. Did I save money yes. Does mine look as good as Ricks, NO. Don't get me wrong, ours turned out very good and is custom built for our application. However, it is a TON of work. I never expected it to be nicer than Ricks. I have built 1, they have built........well think of the McDonalds served sign. We did ours to save some money sure, but we also did it because I love to learn and I thought this was one project I needed to tackle. After having built one myself, I would not turn my nose up at the cost from Ricks. You would not be disappointed. Oh, and you are not comparing apples to apples with the other tanks mentioned. The technology in the Vaporworks system matches the needs of today's fuel injected engines and the driving style we all admire on this site. Fuel control is king and this system is the best out there. Good luck with your project!

[nicks67ca]

Originally Posted by Flash68

Very cool.

There is also a new Aeromotive stamped tank coming out soon that sounds promising for those on a budget.

Did you have more info on this?

[Flash68]

Originally Posted by nicks67ca

Did you have more info on this?

http://www.pro-touring.com/showthrea...eromotive+tank

[James OLC]

Originally Posted by John510

The vaporworx tank has 2 pickups. One on each side of the tank. Basically it has all of the internals of a 2010 camaro tank. If your running a modern motor then get a modern tank.

Technically I think that the VaporWorx tank has 3 pickupes - one in each corner of the tank and (IIRC) one on the bottom of the fuel pump module.

A couple of other considerations with the VaporWork tank (some of which have been mentioned):

- No return line needed (an easy $50-$100 savings)
- No regulator needed (again, an easy $50-$100 savings)
- A cheaper and more reliable fuel level sender
- You don't have to buy a new pump - if you can find a wreck you have an option to source it yourself
- There is (IMHO) a fuel economy savings (not that many of us care). The VaporWork system uses a self adjusting pressure regulator (as do many of the new cars) which taylors the fuel pressure to the engine load. While it may not be a significant consideration, this does lead to a more efficient use of fuel. I personally (individual results may vary) found that I was getting better mileage on the highway with the VaporWorx tank. I also found that my plugs looked better. My mileage on the track still sucks.
- A Rick's tank (VaporWorx or otherwise) does have an increased cost over other alternatives but if you are minitubbing the car and/or need additional exhaust clearance it's the best way to go unless you have the skills to build or modify a tank yourself.
- A VaporWorx pump does have a cost premium over a drop in style pump (up to a certain point - it's certainly more expensive than a wabro pump but its on par with a Kinsler/Bosch setup) but the 5th gen fuel module (et al) is bulletproof. It was designed to be a long life peice, it was designed to maximize efficiency and solve a host of fuel issues, and it is an OEM design - and it's dead quiet.

And as a couple of posters have mentioned, you can (of you have the skill) retrofit the VaporWorx setup in to any tank or cell that you have. I just bought a non-VaporWorx Ricks tank locally and will retrofit it when I have a chance.

Just my two bits.