SMOTY / OUSCI Has this ever happened??

[EBMC]

I disagree, I think it could happen.With the bar being raised higher and higher each year Its just a matter of time before somebody with very deep pockets is able to finance a car utilizing alot of composites and titanium therefore bringing the car to a competitive weight for OUSCI. It will take a ton of money and an owner thats not afraid to push it to the limit (including their checkbook!)

[ALLSPEED01]

Not sure if it could ever happen, because the two are on different ends of the build spectrum. It sure would be fun to try!

[garickman]

Originally Posted by EBMC

It will take a ton of money and an owner thats not afraid to push it to the limit (including their checkbook!)

I'm sure there are alot of builders out there who would love to meet this person.

[GrabberGT]

Originally Posted by EBMC

I disagree, I think it could happen.With the bar being raised higher and higher each year Its just a matter of time before somebody with very deep pockets is able to finance a car utilizing alot of composites and titanium therefore bringing the car to a competitive weight for OUSCI. It will take a ton of money and an owner thats not afraid to push it to the limit (including their checkbook!)

I like the way you think...

My post from the other site:

I could see it happening. Why not have a race inspired SMOTY that can perform as well? What are the criteria for a SMOTY car that would take it out of competition at OUSCI? Perhaps a lot of it is the driver. I see no real reason the RS Vette could not have been a contender in the same fashion Bruce's Cobra was. Just needed a little more power, tuning, and a skilled hand behind the wheel willing to push it. Judging by other winners of SMOTY, ground effects and wild body mods are favorable for SMOTY. Those same mods can be made to be a benefit for OUSCI. They just need to be applied to the right car in the right way. We've had the discussion on what it would take to beet the modern modern Vette's (Danny Pop) out there. This is it. Free reign to reengineer a musclecar to be competitive. Now who do we know who is an engineer by day, amateur race car driver by night, and has deep enough pockets to make this happen?

[Vegas69]

Couple things come to mind.

I have trouble seeing a car that pushes all the judges hot buttons capable of being competitive in the modern OUSCI.

Secondly, the car is going to need EXTENSIVE testing and tweaking on the race track to have any chance. Then, the owner or builder is going to need to be an extreme hot shoe. Then you have to outgun a Z06. Not easy... It all sounds great until you build the street machine of the year and get it out on the track and start beating it up. Will the owner/builder really push it to the limit that it will take to win?

Nothing is impossible.....just very unlikely.

[carbuff]

Originally Posted by Vegas69

Secondly, the car is going to need EXTENSIVE testing and tweaking on the race track to have any chance. Then, the owner or builder is going to need to be an extreme hot shoe. Then you have to outgun a Z06. Not easy... It all sounds great until you build the street machine of the year and get it out on the track and start beating it up. Will the owner/builder really push it to the limit that it will take to win?

Seems like BB fits a lot of that description. It certainly has some unique features. Perhaps not quite enough for SMOTY, but who knows...

Come on Karl, you could do it!!!

[ccracin]

This all seems to point back to the old debate of street car vs. race car vs. show car.

One would like to believe that a STREET machine of the year winner could also win the Ultimate STREET car challenge. But it seems the way both events are judged, decided, etc. lean opposite ways.

In the SMOTY competition you have to have a $750,000 show car and big enough OO's to run it on a short autocross for which time isn't the deciding factor. To me SMOTY is turning into what happened at indoor ISCA shows. As soon as the masses feel like they have lost touch with the possibility of attaining a goal, they will move on to something else. This is one of the reasons street rodding is not as popular as it was. I think this has helped rat rods become more popular too.

For the OUSCI competition you have to have a 6 figure race car that is detailed enough to not look like a race car. Stielow won in a street car in my opinion. (Altough still 6 figures) Danny's car was a street car per say but venturing a little more toward race car. I predict you will see many more purpose built race cars at OUSCI unless the organizers pull it back a bit.

For example, I don't know how many of you have seen Rob from No Limits new truck Hell Boy. I love it, it is bad a$$, but it is a tube chassied race car with truck sheet metal on it. Sure, you can register it and drive it on the street. But.....
(No Offense Rob, I love the truck and am jealous!)

In the end, when someone can win and someone can loose as related to cars, MONEY wins! Someone will always spend what it takes to win!

Let the stoning begin!

[ironworks]

Originally Posted by ccracin

This all seems to point back to the old debate of street car vs. race car vs. show car.

One would like to believe that a STREET machine of the year winner could also win the Ultimate STREET car challenge. But it seems the way both events are judged, decided, etc. lean opposite ways.

In the SMOTY competition you have to have a $750,000 show car and big enough OO's to run it on a short autocross for which time isn't the deciding factor. To me SMOTY is turning into what happened at indoor ISCA shows. As soon as the masses feel like they have lost touch with the possibility of attaining a goal, they will move on to something else. This is one of the reasons street rodding is not as popular as it was. I think this has helped rat rods become more popular too.

For the OUSCI competition you have to have a 6 figure race car that is detailed enough to not look like a race car. Stielow won in a street car in my opinion. (Altough still 6 figures) Danny's car was a street car per say but venturing a little more toward race car. I predict you will see many more purpose built race cars at OUSCI unless the organizers pull it back a bit.

For example, I don't know how many of you have seen Rob from No Limits new truck Hell Boy. I love it, it is bad a$$, but it is a tube chassied race car with truck sheet metal on it. Sure, you can register it and drive it on the street. But.....
(No Offense Rob, I love the truck and am jealous!)

In the end, when someone can win and someone can loose as related to cars, MONEY wins! Someone will always spend what it takes to win!

Let the stoning begin!

But Rob's truck can only with Truck of the year. It's not a car.

[ccracin]

Originally Posted by ironworks

But Rob's truck can only with Truck of the year. It's not a car.

No bed!

[dunnjun]

Quote: "To me SMOTY is turning into what happened at indoor ISCA shows. As soon as the masses feel like they have lost touch with the possibility of attaining a goal, they will move on to something else."Quote


Even though all of us are awed by the quality of all of the cars that are capable of winning a SMOTY, to most of us, they are not representative of the street/race trend of todays builds. Maybe there needs to be a new award that is more reflective of the direction our sport is headed. Since design is still a quarter of the points at OUSCI, and most of our cars are still street driven. It would seem that we're looking at an award that would take form and function into consideration. Something short of SMOTY, it would honor design, but the award would also recognize the race car focus and capabilities that are major goals of an increasing number of current builds.

To that end I propose the Street Car Racer Of The Year Award, the SCROTY. And IMO BLU BALZ has this one in the bag.