Budget '69 Camaro Track Car - NO WHINERS!

[Track Junky]

Originally Posted by Sieg

Gaetano,

I'm assuming you've read this?
http://www.pozziracing.com/first_gen...e.htm#Geometry

Thanks Sieg, I've scrolled over Dave's stuff quite a few times. I'm pretty sure we will be doing the Guldstrand mod but who knows what else Vince has up his sleeve. 7 months is a lot of time to get ourselves into trouble.

Originally Posted by sik68

Sounds like an awesome plan! And that lexan + decklid are going to be sweet.

Thanks Steven. The cool thing is that I will be putting it to the test so we will know for sure what kind of benefeits these changes will make by comparing to this years lap times.

[Sieg]

Originally Posted by Track Junky

Thanks Sieg, I've scrolled over Dave's stuff quite a few times. I'm pretty sure we will be doing the Guldstrand mod but who knows what else Vince has up his sleeve. 7 months is a lot of time to get ourselves into trouble.

Figured you had that bible, just making sure. I'm watching this very closely as I'm leaning towards a stock subframe, aftermarket arms, coil-overs, and splined bar also.

[Flash68]

Originally Posted by Track Junky

In addition I think that this will be a pretty cool little educational project during the off season..

Off season? There is no off season in CALIFORNIA.

[Track Junky]

Originally Posted by Flash68

Off season? There is no off season in CALIFORNIA.

Thats what you say now.......we'll se how things go after August

[Vince@Meanstreets]

The term "Off season" is blue collar for 'no budget". LOL

We do what we can with what we can scroung.

[Track Junky]

Originally Posted by Vegas69

That's not what racers do. It's never good enough. Just ask me.

Exactly.........thats the trouble with this addiction, we're never satisfied

Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab

The term "Off season" is blue collar for 'no budget". LOL

We do what we can with what we can scroung.

Thanks Vince......that pretty much sums it up. BTW, I have a trade offer for those coil overs, lol.

[intocarss]

Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab

The term "Off season" is blue collar for 'no budget". LOL

[Ron in SoCal]

There's more than changing the lowers going on there I think. First you took a balanced car and played with it - wider tires, spacers, different alignment, different watts link (roll ceneter) settings. I also think the lowers changed the game from where you were as well. Now you're chasing a ghost - it's not there anymore.

The suspension engineers from Dick Guldstrand on have taken the stock sub and gone as far as they can. The vendors each have their version of what works best. Many won't agree w me, but I think in our segment, Corvette geo gets copied most. This gets you to a wider tire and a better camber curve aka contact patch. I'm no engineer, but I don't think that's gonna happen w the stock sub. You also have not yet experimented w a true coil over set up w your favorite shock angle/spring rate/sway bar. All this needs to be dialed in.

There's alot smarter guys on here than me, I'm just just spitballin'...

[Track Junky]

My understanding is that the Gulstrand mod allows for more camber gain in compression and also will allow for more caster. Tubular control arms give us more caster and camber but not more camber gain in compression which I'm thinking the Guldstrand mod will pick up.
I'm not clear on what moving the lower control arm would do. If I go through it in my head, raising it and moving it out will give more camber gain but what else?

[Flash68]

Originally Posted by Track Junky

Thanks for the props bro but I dont think I'm fast.

I don't either pal.

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal

There's alot smarter guys on here than me, I'm just just spitballin'...

Well it's a pretty decent matzo ball.