Roll Cage vs Roll bar? It's suspension if your suspension doesn't keep you RSD

[ironworks]

It would really suck to have some super bad ass cage in your street car and get killed in a fender bender because you busted your skull against the rollcage in the car. If your going to have a full cage in your car you better have full seat belts you use everytime so your melon does not get smashed against a really hard rollbar.

That is what scares me about rollcages in a street cars. Plus you never see a street car with a rollcage with any padding on the bars, because the padding is ugly. It wont be as ugly as brain matter sprayed all over you Recaro's.

Rodger

[garickman]

Originally Posted by ironworks

It would really suck to have some super bad ass cage in your street car and get killed in a fender bender because you busted your skull against the rollcage in the car. Rodger

That would suck! But on the flip side of the coin I'll bet someone would be thankful for that super bad ass roll cage if they were doing 90MPH on the freeway, got a blow out, over corrected and hit the concrete median and rolled 4 or 5 times. Then crawl out the window, look at what's left of thier mangled car and san say "damn I sould be dead right now." Stranger things have happened.

[Sieg]

Realistically..........IMO

Full cages = helmet, shoulder harnesses, and padded bars so the helmet isn't compromised. Practical, no, logical, yes.

150 mph in a timed competitive event = full approved cage, seat, 5 point harness, helmet, fire suit, etc. Especially on a public road event.

You can yard-sale a high hp car in a matter of milli-seconds.

[Vegas69]

That's the problem with pro touring and racing. Do you want a safe street car or race car? You can't have both.

[Flash68]

I'll take a cage over no cage anyway. One reason I chose the car I found that already had a pretty good one.

Most of the pro touring cars around here aren't driven nearly as much on the street as people think and lead on. The real danger is on the track, not a 20 mph accident cruising once a month.

Cage that bad boy real good Torino Man. You'll end up more on the track than on the street with that thing. You got plenty of street cars in your stable from what I can tell.

[Sieg]

Originally Posted by Flash68

not a 20 mph accident cruising once a month.

Don't know about you Kalifornian's but this Orygunian can't take his car out ever and cruise it at 20 mph, it just don't happen. Must be that little pucker with horns on his head sitting on my left shoulder.

Disclaimer: I'm also the guy that's done numerous track days seeing 135-165 mph lap after lap with no cage and only 2 wheels.

[Flash68]

Originally Posted by Sieg

Don't know about you Kalifornian's but this Orygunian can't take his car out ever and cruise it at 20 mph, it just don't happen. Must be that little pucker with horns on his head sitting on my left shoulder.

Disclaimer: I'm also the guy that's done numerous track days seeing 135-165 mph lap after lap with no cage and only 2 wheels.

My point was that there are a lot of show touring cars around that really just put around and don't give it gas much. So many guys put in the top of line suspension and the latest this and that and don't even sniff its potential. If it's powerful and you wanna test the limits, cage it and go to the track.

[Vegas69]

That's the problem, you build one of these cars and you can't sniff it's capability on the street and that leads you to the track. It happens.

[Track Junky]

Originally Posted by Vegas69

That's the problem, you build one of these cars and you can't sniff it's capability on the street and that leads you to the track. It happens.

Exactly......thats how I started. Messing around on the street is not cool......to many unsafe variables for you and the public.

[FETorino]

Originally Posted by Vegas69

That's the problem, you build one of these cars and you can't sniff it's capability on the street and that leads you to the track. It happens.

Exactly right. Thinking back to the 80s with a 450hp 69 Firebird with GW and Herb Adams suspensions stuff I did some really stupid stuff. At the time there didn't seem to be a proper outlet for my PT car other than Glendora Mountain Road. I'm a little wiser now. Thankfully I found my way to the track on my motorcycles and found the difference between riding at 7/10ths and 10/10ths.

Originally Posted by Vegas69

700 horsepower and a dry sump.


You really don't know what a missile you are building. That goes for you to Ron. Believe me, 700hp will motivate anything down the straightaway in a big way..

Well I do and it does scare me a bit.

It does come down to do you plan on driving it 10/10ths or not.

I can't disagree with the possibility of a high speed crash and the difference in outcome with a full cage vs a 5 pt.

But to that end do you have a fire suppressant system in your car or do you have a Hans device? If you are preparing for the worst then you should prepare for the worst right?

I don't know what I'm convinced of yet but I think it is a good thing we are all having this discussion.