Shops, Shops and more shops

[GregWeld]

I forgot to finish my "thoughts" before going to get another cup of coffee...


For the guy with enough "skills" and experience to do it himself.... having a nice space to work in at home is paramount. It adds some value to the house (to the right buyer)... and certainly adds value to the guy living there and building it!

Personally - I actually moved to my current house - just so I could have room to build a shop (30 X 50). And I still have things done professionally. The '32 was built at Steve's Auto Restoration (a HORRIBLE EXPERIENCE)... and then taken to BRIZIO to get it sorted out (a FABULOUS EXPERIENCE)... In the meantime my shop has allowed me to help my Sister and Brother in Law completely rebuild their '69 Camaro... work that they could NEVER afford to pay someone to do. If they could build a shop/garage on their property it would be the very first priority for them.

[sevillaz28]

I hear you guys. People have been ripped off and let down by many of the shops in the bay area and are getting tired of it. There are so "few" good shops around that can produce nice to excelent work in a timely manner.

I have built many cars for myself and other people as a hobby for the past 25 years and I have never heard so many complaints. Shops saying they can do a job and then hacking up a car or not knowing what they are doing so it takes forever to do a simple swap of some kind or the worst of it, taking a deposite on a project and never doing the work.

EBMC, your not to far from me and I know of a couple of people that have brought their cars to you and have been very happy.

Fesler, I think you are right on with the ratio of good "vs" bad. I think out here it might be even higher due to the ammount of shops that exist. As for the cost of building a 40x60 shop, There are a bunch of variables that can and will change the price of a building that size. I would guess in your area if you build a standard slab on grade pad and foundation, 2x4 walls 13 feet high, clear span truss roof frame, stucco and comp roof your in the 45k range and thats if its a free standing building. Sorry I don't have very many pics. I'm not much of a picture taker but i can get some for you next week if you like?

Mr Weld, Hope that second cup of coffee did some good. The ATM comment is unfortunately true. It not only helped the auto industry but also the consturction side as well and when the ATM broke, so did the rest of it. Roy Brizio is a top notch builder and has been from day one. Like you had said, your helping build a car that most likely could not be built because this sh!t's expensive to have quality work done. There are so few people that can afford a 250k car to be built and most people with that kind of money are investing, not spending.

I have a little spot I work on my cars at and I'm getting people in my area asking me to do work on their cars for them but its a hobby for me and I'm almost considering making it a career move just because I'm getting a little tired of construction. After 25 years of doing the same thing " Mind you I'm hands on all day and don't use many subs" It might be a nice change from the 14hr days to maybe a 9hr dy.

[SLO_Z28]

Originally Posted by sevillaz28

. I would guess in your area if you build a standard slab on grade pad and foundation, 2x4 walls 13 feet high, clear span truss roof frame, stucco and comp roof your in the 45k range and thats if its a free standing building. Sorry I don't have very many pics.

I was just talking about building a shop today, is that price with the foundation already laid, or including the foundation? I was talking to my friend(hes a framer in the 9109), and he thought we could get it done for around $22,000. We were looking at a 24x40 with 10 foot walls. This is for a friend of mine, we built his house pretty inexpensively and this seems like the next logical step.

[sevillaz28]

Originally Posted by SLO_Z28

I was just talking about building a shop today, is that price with the foundation already laid, or including the foundation? I was talking to my friend(hes a framer in the 9109), and he thought we could get it done for around $22,000. We were looking at a 24x40 with 10 foot walls. This is for a friend of mine, we built his house pretty inexpensively and this seems like the next logical step.

The cost I'm giving is for a new building from the dirt to the finish roof. You are right on the $22,000 for framing if that includes material and labor to erect the building on an existing slab and then you have the cost of the exterior finish and roof finish. I'm putting these up in about 35 to 45 working days from start to finish and the only thing I sub contract out is the concrete finish and stucco.

I helped with a GTM build and those cars can be a lot of fun. My friend had a twin turbo LS7 in his and it was just stupid fast, kind of like the Supercharged GT 500 fastback I built him that would spin the 315's at 70mph, fun but then not at the same time.

A friend of mine who builds some high quality cars is in the process of purchasing a big lot and wants me to build two 10ksqft buildings in the near future. I'm designing the buildings so he can have a full work/body shop in one building and the other building will be a finish building with a down draft spray booth, frame jig and finish staging area and a detail area. Its really a cool set up we just need to work out the cost and keep it in budget.

Building a house/car or doing a remodel for someone is a lot of fun for me especially if I'm able to give suggestions to the owner to make sure they get what they want and not just what they can afford. I listen to my clients and to what they are looking for as an end product and work off of that to give them the final product they expect.