any experience with RRS rack and pinion?

[Ripped]

Yeah I cannot speak to the rack conversions.
The only one that I would use, is the TCP system, which is about $2500-3K

I am using the Borgeson conversion. From talking to the tech support, I believe it's a converted GM box, that's been resplined. It uses the factory (manual steering) pitman arm, and unlike the rack conversions, does give you full turning radius.

I used a Summit chrome gm style PS pump $150 +/- with a v pulley.

It's been trouble free, and has more ground clearance than the racks (my car is very low)

The rest of the suspension;
Cut BB springs, opentracker rollerized perch
TCP upper and lower control arms
Arning drop
Baer bumpsteer kit
RT strut rods, Bilstein shocks
My own home built eccentric eliminators
I do my own alignment, with a laser and an agressive camber and caster

BTW when I discovered a slight leak, in the first box, Borgeson took the other one back and air-freighted (express) the replacement box. I had it in 2 days.
I made my own braided lines.


I am using the shallowest oil pan available for the FE (keep in mind my engine is lowered 1" to lower the center of gravity)
The TCP rack, would be the same elevation, as the bottom of my pan, so you can see the ground clearance issue, on a lowerd car. If you are stockish ride height, it should be okay.

Good luck

[medbali76]

Originally Posted by Ripped

Yeah I cannot speak to the rack conversions.
The only one that I would use, is the TCP system, which is about $2500-3K

I am using the Borgeson conversion. From talking to the tech support, I believe it's a converted GM box, that's been resplined. It uses the factory (manual steering) pitman arm, and unlike the rack conversions, does give you full turning radius.

I used a Summit chrome gm style PS pump $150 +/- with a v pulley.

It's been trouble free, and has more ground clearance than the racks (my car is very low)

The rest of the suspension;
Cut BB springs, opentracker rollerized perch
TCP upper and lower control arms
Arning drop
Baer bumpsteer kit
RT strut rods, Bilstein shocks
My own home built eccentric eliminators
I do my own alignment, with a laser and an agressive camber and caster

BTW when I discovered a slight leak, in the first box, Borgeson took the other one back and air-freighted (express) the replacement box. I had it in 2 days.
I made my own braided lines.


I am using the shallowest oil pan available for the FE (keep in mind my engine is lowered 1" to lower the center of gravity)
The TCP rack, would be the same elevation, as the bottom of my pan, so you can see the ground clearance issue, on a lowerd car. If you are stockish ride height, it should be okay.

Good luck

Nice car
How was the Borgeson conversion? Was it easy to install without problems?
What headers do you use?
Does it give you much better steering? Does it have the same 16:1 ratio as the modern rack and pinions?

[bret]

Yep, I've got a TCP power rack in my 69 Mustang since about 2005. No problems.
TCP uses a Woodward servo that has all kinds of feel and bias adjsutments for those who are so inclined.

We just did a 66 Shelby clone with our Tru Turn on it that uses a Borgenson box. It is very nice as well...the car drives like a Mercedes!

If you have the budget and want to tune the feel of the sterring, go with the TCP. If you want to bolt it on and forget it, use the Borgenson box.

I have researched a few of the other R&P conversions out there [as in actual installation and use]. They ranged from adequete to dangerous.

[medbali76]

Originally Posted by bret

Yep, I've got a TCP power rack in my 69 Mustang since about 2005. No problems.
TCP uses a Woodward servo that has all kinds of feel and bias adjsutments for those who are so inclined.

We just did a 66 Shelby clone with our Tru Turn on it that uses a Borgenson box. It is very nice as well...the car drives like a Mercedes!

If you have the budget and want to tune the feel of the sterring, go with the TCP. If you want to bolt it on and forget it, use the Borgenson box.

I have researched a few of the other R&P conversions out there [as in actual installation and use]. They ranged from adequete to dangerous.

Thanks for the comment.
I think I will try the Borgeson box first.

[funcars]

I have a modified TCP setup using rod end links and interfacing with custom SCP spindles so I had to do some extra tweaks. I changed the the torsion bar in the servo valve to get the feel I wanted too. Woodward is great to work with and will help you dial in what you want out of their servo if you need to change anything.

It has been very reliable and I have had it more than 10 yrs. A solid setup.

[fvike]

Originally Posted by funcars

I have a modified TCP setup using rod end links and interfacing with custom SCP spindles so I had to do some extra tweaks. I changed the the torsion bar in the servo valve to get the feel I wanted too. Woodward is great to work with and will help you dial in what you want out of their servo if you need to change anything.

It has been very reliable and I have had it more than 10 yrs. A solid setup.

HIJACK
Can you tell me about your spindles? are they drop spindles?
/HIJACK

Info relevant to the tread: I also have the TCP power rack. It's performance has been flawless.