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Old 09-27-2012, 10:25 AM
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Camaro X still had a GM subframe and was painted white. Not alot of people looking for white cars.

I think a fresh one off custom car will bring good money if it is marketed and sold when it is brand new. Not after it has been exposed, in mags etc. I think the 69 Camaro is a timeless design that stands on it's own regardless of what the latest trend is. I like to stay closer to stock looking. If you build the latest trend you will probably be out of style about the time you want to sell it.
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:30 PM
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Camaro X still had a GM subframe and was painted white. Not alot of people looking for white cars.

I think a fresh one off custom car will bring good money if it is marketed and sold when it is brand new. Not after it has been exposed, in mags etc. I think the 69 Camaro is a timeless design that stands on it's own regardless of what the latest trend is. I like to stay closer to stock looking. If you build the latest trend you will probably be out of style about the time you want to sell it.
I'm with this guy. Smart folks can spot a full-on, comprehensive build with a custom front clip, link rear suspension, great brakes, etc. A solid number of buyers are willing to pay good money in order to sidestep the build hassles.

And the folks at Barrett-Jackson, for example, know darn well how to tell a stock clip from an aftermarket clip during the consignment phase. I don't know about the other auction houses. I've had this conversation with the VP of Consignment at B-J recently and he'd love to see more full-on builds cross the block.

Perhaps a better question is: What is the ceiling for a budget with the proper list of hard parts, if resale matters?

$75K cost??
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Old 09-27-2012, 07:41 PM
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I think the 69 Camaro is a timeless design that stands on it's own regardless of what the latest trend is. I like to stay closer to stock looking.
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Old 09-27-2012, 06:39 PM
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I have wondered that about the carbon fiber craze going on. I know most people go with the carbon fiber products to reduce weight, (I would to if I had the money) but are the exposed carbon panels and the masking of various racing stripes eventually going to date the build. Kind of like the graphics craze of the 80's and 90's?
I would think materials would be different from designs (think tribal stripes)

After all, polished aluminum never went out of style, nore did chrome.. but yea, the whole CF everything just for looks might be replaced by something else.
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Old 09-27-2012, 07:44 PM
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I have wondered that about the carbon fiber craze going on. I know most people go with the carbon fiber products to reduce weight, (I would to if I had the money) but are the exposed carbon panels and the masking of various racing stripes eventually going to date the build. Kind of like the graphics craze of the 80's and 90's?
The next trend could be carbon panels for their weight reduction and strength with vinyl wraps for easy of change and durability.
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Im new to this stuff but have formed some opinions based on first hand experience. I only bring up my opinions to be helpful.

My interest is primarily in vintage Corvettes. I am building a pro-touring 65 Coupe and have a 68 Coupe rolling body ready for deployment. There are 50-75 custom Corvettes that go up for sale every year at the auction houses. Generally they are called resto-mods but are closer to pro-touring than most would think. Few come with roll over protection so that is one difference and most are geared towards comfort and driveabliity versus top-end performance.

Generally a pro-touring Camaro with all the functional bells and whistles, will cost +- $100k if there are no issues/compromises with $$$. Many end up being two seater performance cars. Most will have custom subframes but not chassis. Few to none will have irs.

A pro-touring Corvette/resto-mod will cost the same or less depending on donor car purchase cost. The C1-C3 modded car will have custom chassis, modern irs, drive train etc. For the same build cost and quality components, a superior car can be built if you consider custom chassis and irs superior. I know lots of guys will disagree with that "superior" comment. I say superior because it is mentioned many times in the Camaro/Mustang comparisons of newer cars.

C2 Corvettes are expensive. My build $$$ goal was to build the 65 to 100% of the performance values of a C6 Z06 and not exceed the cost of a new C6 ZR1. Im 90% done and so far so good. For the C3, I can almost reverse the goals and build ZR1 performance for the cost of a top of the line Z06.

Z06/ZR1 cars are expensive so it is easier to build a vintage PT corvette and have a better potential resale value. For evidence go to the BJ auction site search section, and type in custom Corvettes. It will spit up several years of auction sales and each car can be studied to estimate build cost versus return.

Last, my 65 donor car was around $35k, way too expensive, lol. My 68 donor was $3.5k with many C3 nom driveable cars in the $4k-$10k range. I am not building these cars to make money but didnt want to pi$$ it away either, lol. I will never sell them or at least have no plans to do so. I am simply sharing info for the guy who is searching for his next project and isnt happy with the prices of available vintage donor cars. When the cars are done I will join a motorsports ranch and have fun on the weekends. Watch out for the old retired Army guy, lol.
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Look at what Roadster Shop, Trepanier, Strope, Ring Brothers, DSE are all building. A bunch of stock looking cars with state or the art drivetrain. I think that is where the educated market is, the guys that know what they want. The guys that had the same rust bucket in hogh school and wants to relive his youth albeit finanicially much better. The one offs that will always be done are those individuals that want their personal touches and I doubt they are looking at resale numbers when they are done. Those usually guys take a bath on except the occasional home run.

Barrett Jackson I think is a different buyer on the whole. I think there if it looks the part and is the right color, I think it will bring ballprak price to a full tilt PT car and BJ has proved that point on several occasions as well.
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