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Old 11-07-2012, 09:32 AM
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I just hope Obama is smart enough to realize that he only got HALF the popular vote --- and that half the people in the USA DID NOT vote for him... and maybe he's smart enough to back away from the socialist Obama Phone anti anyone that's actually employed and making money stance.

I voted for him last time... because he ran on a moderate platform of bringing everyone together... well... that... and who could vote for McCain/Palin. But I've never seen a POTUS that's been more divisive and more anti 'success'.
Just my two cents, but I think Greg is on to something here when he said he was looking for someone moderate the last time around. I think people were still looking for someone moderate this time around. Historically that is what usually plays a big factor in deciding the winner. I wish we could have seen what would have happened if Romney ran on a moderate ticket that didn't veer so far back and forth trying to appease everyone. I think the Romney campaign spent a lot of time pandering to the social conservatives, probably to try and ease their fears of voting for a mormon, which was probably a gigantic waste of time considering how likely social conservatives were to vote for Obama in the first place. Romney's record isn't representative of what a lot of people (left and right) probably figured they would be getting after seeing all of the campaigning done by both parties. I think I'll just cut my ramblings short right there before.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:43 AM
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Just my two cents, but I think Greg is on to something here when he said he was looking for someone moderate the last time around. I think people were still looking for someone moderate this time around. Historically that is what usually plays a big factor in deciding the winner. I wish we could have seen what would have happened if Romney ran on a moderate ticket that didn't veer so far back and forth trying to appease everyone. I think the Romney campaign spent a lot of time pandering to the social conservatives, probably to try and ease their fears of voting for a mormon, which was probably a gigantic waste of time considering how likely social conservatives were to vote for Obama in the first place. Romney's record isn't representative of what a lot of people (left and right) probably figured they would be getting after seeing all of the campaigning done by both parties. I think I'll just cut my ramblings short right there before.
Matt brings up a question that I truly and honestly don't understand and would appreciate someone explaining to me. What does Romney being a Mormon have anything to do with it? Personally I don't care about a persons religion, race or sexual preference. I respect that and that person, so long as they respect the same in return. Why is this such a big deal?
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:40 AM
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Matt brings up a question that I truly and honestly don't understand and would appreciate someone explaining to me. What does Romney being a Mormon have anything to do with it? Personally I don't care about a persons religion, race or sexual preference. I respect that and that person, so long as they respect the same in return. Why is this such a big deal?
I agree but to some people it was considered an issue. I mean it wasn't really that long ago when a Catholic in the white house was ground breaking, and we haven't had a jewish president.

I agree with Matt in that a moderate Mitt Romney could have won the election. He tried hard to swing towards the middle near the end but how is anyone supposed to believe someone who shifts so wildly?

Everyone agrees that politicians will say anything to be elected, but that doesn't mean that people will accept it and vote for you anyways. I can certainly see a lot of people voting for Obama simply because it's clearer what you will get than with Romney who has been all over the place.

Back before the last election I thought McCain was great, but then to try to get elected he had to do a lot of things that I don't think were him and I lost a lot of respect for him.

If as they say America is middle-right, who is going to win more and more elections, a party that is far right, or one that is middle-left?
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