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Old 12-25-2012, 12:16 PM
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I need to go back through the contract. I don't recall that it specified it in the wording is the problem..........
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A drain AND flat aren't two things that go together....


So if there's a drain involved - they would have sloped the floor to the drain.


I do agree with Jer though! If the contract says flat - and you want flat - it will drive you nuts every day that it's not.


We jackhammered 50 cubic yards out of our backyard around the pool because it started to crack and the cracks drove me nuts! Only one way to fix that!


You see all the dirt area - and where the new pavers are? ALL of that got jackhammered out and it was laced with #4 rebar! Then we replaced it with the pavers. The jackhammering went on for about 2 weeks!

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I agree - level and drain don't jive.... My thought was to have a drain to push the water to without having it go out my door and onto my driveway (especially in the Winter). I wanted the floor level for ease of work bench placement etc.. I didn't really care that the water wouldn't flow to the drain. My plan was to push it to the drain.

I will talk to my contractor tomorrow and go from there.

Does anyone have this type of slope in their garage that can offer some practical "how much of an issue it is" advice. If I'm going to have it fixed, now is the time to do it, before the rest of the building is completed......which will probably be awhile since we were just issued a Blizzard Warning
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Also something to keep in mind is what is code in your area? Maybe he had to pour it with the slope?
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Also something to keep in mind is what is code in your area? Maybe he had to pour it with the slope?
Yeah, that is one of the things that I want to verify. He may not have had a choice. I haven't talked to him since they poured it. I didn't want to bother him around the holidays and frankly, I've just been busy too.

I'm just hoping that it isn't something that I will curse every time I go to move my tool box around or move a vehicle around on casters etc.. I'm going to go check Dad's shop to see what it has as a reference. I don't think it is have much of any fall to it, but it may be more than I think - - and it hasn't really caused us too much of an issue.
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A true effective slope to the drain could be a wonderful thing if indeed you do plan to do a lot of car washing, wet sanding, whatever. But like others have said, if it is not what you wanted and you plan to be in the shop a lot...

Every fire station I've ever worked at has pitched floors and at least four large drains... the low spot in the floor is never at the drain. It's always a foot away and you end up pushing water up into the drain. When I had my shop done, like you, I wanted a place to wash my car inside during nasty weather. I asked the concrete contractor if they could simply trowel an area about 20x20 to pitch down an inch or so into a drain. They tried and damned if it isn't just like the fire station, the low spot is a foot away from the drain!



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It is shocking how incompetent most construction workers are. In many years and many home renovation projects, I have yet to meet a true craftsman. My garage almost had the same issue, but I knew from experience to be there when ANY major activity was being done. My garage is about the same size, and I caught the concrete guys laying out about 1/2 of a concrete block's height of slope towards the door. I didn't know the spanish word for "flat", and it took some convincing to make them understand what I wanted.

I would have been very upset also, and the problem is that tearing out the floor and redoing will eat up more than the entire profit your contractor has in the job. He will do everything he can to avoid a re-pour.

The garage attached to my house was here when I moved in, and has so much slope a car will roll out if given a nudge. It is actually dangerous because the driveway is sloped away from the house, and the yard also. If a car rolled out it would end up 100ft away in a fence.
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With pretty much anything in life, if you fail to manage, it doesn't get done or turn out quite right. If it was in the contract or you called to remind him, I'd say it's his bad. If you were to busy, it falls on your lap.
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With pretty much anything in life, if you fail to manage, it doesn't get done or turn out quite right. If it was in the contract or you called to remind him, I'd say it's his bad. If you were to busy, it falls on your lap.
I know. ........
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Hey Brandon,
Just thought i'd share... I had a similiar issue when they poured my floor, I wasn't able to be home to oversee the work being done and ended up with a very level floor but the crew forgot to put a 1/2 drop at all 3 roll up door openings, so the concrete is flat all the way to the edge so now when the doors are shut and the rain blows against the door the water runs under the garage door bottom seal and lets water in (thankful it doesn't let much in). Just something i learned to live with but still dissapointing.
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