1968 Camaro "Badmotorfinger" v2.2

[Flash68]

Originally Posted by byndbad914

like the choice of housing for a race car; I see so many cars with housings that are more for an unlimited class offroad truck, so keeping that unsprung weight down is a smart idea. Did you have any camber welded into it? Circle track guys get around -0.5 deg neg in the rear without too much funkiness with the axles. I have heard of around -2 deg but that takes some special parts so the axles don't bind. Not sure if you have messed with any of that.

Have you put any thought to moving the exhaust tips into the rockers (french them in to be even on the bottom with the rest of the rocker)? It would look pretty cool IMO and more like it is part of the car.

There was a 69 Camaro in Popular Hot Rodding June 04 from the NorCal area now that I think about it. I have a fistful of magazines I have kept as inspiration whenever I think about a project and that is one of them so I just pulled it out of the drawer. Big flares, Nascar setup, but had a big wing on the rear I wasn't a big fan of visually. Your rendering reminded me of it and I prefer the look of the spoiler.

found a pic on the Hot Rod site, PHR blocked theirs.

http://www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicl.../photo_01.html

My chassis/rear end guy (Jake) is what I would call a Pro-Touring guy turned Racer. He is tuned in to both areas - and most people are clearly on one side of that fence I have found. We also talk about the trade offs for parts and specs - I have wanted this to be killer on a track and set up right but be able to be driven to work occasionally.

He did not think any rear camber would be worth it for me so we went with none. We did consider it.

I'd love to put the exhaust into the rockers but that is just more time and money and I love the boom tube as it is. It is quite think actually and I am hoping we can tuck it as nicely with the new torque arm as we had it before. Some cutting should be needed I imagine.

I know exactly the 69 Camaro you speak of... I talked to the shop that did the flares on that car not too long ago as that car is local to me. He doesn't run it much anymore -- he bought a Z06 -- yawn.

That car is definitely on my short list for inspiration as well. My spoilers should be finished soon and they should be pretty cool and still functional. I am not quite into the big wing camp yet.

Thanks

Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab

Personally I'd dig into that rocker and raise them bitties up, that way you can get that car low as it supposed to be.


Let me know if you need anything made, I'd like to help where I can.

Vince, did you hire any help down there yet? I hear your shop is bustin at the seams!

The car should get reasonably low but I don't want too low. The flares should actually make it look lower than it is and the larger (lower) front spoiler will do its job we think. It has been tested at high speeds on faster tracks than what we have out here.

I'd love to get you involved somehow. Let me see if I can get something worked in.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Originally Posted by Flash68

My chassis/rear end guy (Jake) is what I would call a Pro-Touring guy turned Racer. He is tuned in to both areas - and most people are clearly on one side of that fence I have found. We also talk about the trade offs for parts and specs - I have wanted this to be killer on a track and set up right but be able to be driven to work occasionally.

He did not think any rear camber would be worth it for me so we went with none. We did consider it.

I'd love to put the exhaust into the rockers but that is just more time and money and I love the boom tube as it is. It is quite think actually and I am hoping we can tuck it as nicely with the new torque arm as we had it before. Some cutting should be needed I imagine.

I know exactly the 69 Camaro you speak of... I talked to the shop that did the flares on that car not too long ago as that car is local to me. He doesn't run it much anymore -- he bought a Z06 -- yawn.

That car is definitely on my short list for inspiration as well. My spoilers should be finished soon and they should be pretty cool and still functional. I am not quite into the big wing camp yet.

Thanks



Vince, did you hire any help down there yet? I hear your shop is bustin at the seams!

The car should get reasonably low but I don't want too low. The flares should actually make it look lower than it is and the larger (lower) front spoiler will do its job we think. It has been tested at high speeds on faster tracks than what we have out here.

I'd love to get you involved somehow. Let me see if I can get something worked in.

yeah just keep me in mind. I know Rich got you handled but let me know. I love to work with local businesses to keep stuff efficient and in CA.

No hired help yet. Busting at the seams not quite but close. 7 Projects in the shop and 4 waiting in the wings you can't complain.

[Flash68]

making progress..... but I am in line behind this thing... 781 cubic inch.



I am back in the queue early next week Mike says.

[GregWeld]

Exact same CI that my Freightliner has! OMG!! I almost passed out when I saw this bad boy... Nothing better than a big azz motor on a dyno. Bet she shakes the whole building. Ya gotta be there when they run it and post video!!!!

Oh.... and you're small block is okay too.... I guess.

[Flash68]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

Exact same CI that my Freightliner has! OMG!! I almost passed out when I saw this bad boy... Nothing better than a big azz motor on a dyno. Bet she shakes the whole building. Ya gotta be there when they run it and post video!!!!

Oh.... and you're small block is okay too.... I guess.

I was just getting ready to ask if I could come see it on the dyno but he said they have to haul it down to San Leandro because Watson's dyno ONLY handles 1000 ft lbs. Dammit.

That should make 1600+ hp he said.

[GregWeld]

Okay --- you can just skip the dyno and head straight over to Brizio and check on my build.


When was the last time you crossed the bridge now that you've been domesticated.....

[Flash68]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

Okay --- you can just skip the dyno and head straight over to Brizio and check on my build.


When was the last time you crossed the bridge now that you've been domesticated.....

I do need to get over the see that POS. Hope it's better than that last piece that SAR did.

We hit Oakland a lot now for date nights but still manage to get to the city occasionally... heck, it's only 15 minutes from us!

[intocarss]

Originally Posted by Flash68

making progress..... but I am in line behind this thing... 781 cubic inch.



I am back in the queue early next week Mike says.

Makes ya feel inadequate don't it

Originally Posted by GregWeld

Exact same CI that my Freightliner has! OMG!! I almost passed out when I saw this bad boy... Nothing better than a big azz motor on a dyno. Bet she shakes the whole building. Ya gotta be there when they run it and post video!!!!

We dyno'd some big cubic inch engs and well... you just have to be there to know the feeling.

[Richio1]

Diggin the rendering Dave. As you said, sure helps in visualizing the final outcome. Looking forward to seeing it come together soon.

[Flash68]

Originally Posted by Richio1

Diggin the rendering Dave. As you said, sure helps in visualizing the final outcome. Looking forward to seeing it come together soon.

Thanks!

Had a great weekend. Went to the NASA event at Sonoma Raceway (formerly Sears Point/Infineon -- Happy, Greg?) and hung out with the Life's Good Racing team who field an awesomely quick 69 Camaro that is well known around here. Got some great ideas from that car and talked with the team quite a bit. The car is relatively simple other than the Lateral Dynamics 3 link in there.

Then today Rich and I pulled all the suspension out and got it on the body cart he put together.

Gotta take a step back to take 2 steps forward. Or something like that.



Should have some updates this week on engine, and should take delivery of the floater rear and spoilers from Jake.