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Old 03-21-2013, 11:17 AM
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Here's an idea.

Why don't the police operate more like firemen? They could stay in their station and play cards and only respond when they're called. I think both cops and the public would like that.
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Why don't the police operate more like firemen? They could stay in their station and play cards and only respond when they're called. I think both cops and the public would like that.
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Why don't the police operate more like firemen? They could stay in their station and play cards and only respond when they're called. I think both cops and the public would like that.
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I grew up in the Bay Area but never really spent much time in Oakland, Richmond, Stockton, etc other than for business reasons. In and Out.

I started working in Vallejo last November. Up till now we've had 4 shooting instances that I know of, the Most recent on Georgia St. where the police blocked Georgia St. off for blocks while they did their investigation. The first day on the job I was watching a pavement overlay project. I was told that the day before I got there one of the guys doing some clean up work with a bobcat got caught in the middle of a gun fight. I was told the bobcat was struck by a bullet and the guy working it did not come back to the job. Two days later me and one of the City of Vallejo Public works inspectors were chatting in a parking lot and a tall skinny guy came up and apologized for knocking down a street light with his car. He began to tell us the story on how the police were chasing him and how he tried to ram them to get away. This is my third day working in Vallejo mind you so you can imagine how reality is starting to set in. 3 weeks ago we heard 6 gunshots in a row, saw a guy running through the parking lot, and minutes later a cop car flying through the parking lot lights and sirens blaring.

All this a 30 minute drive from where I grew up.

If you were a cop what would your attitude be like in a town like this.
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I started working in Vallejo last November. Up till now we've had 4 shooting instances that I know of, the Most recent on Georgia St. where the police blocked Georgia St. off for blocks while they did their investigation......
3 weeks ago we heard 6 gunshots in a row, saw a guy running through the parking lot, and minutes later a cop car flying through the parking lot lights and sirens blaring.

All this a 30 minute drive from where I grew up.

If you were a cop what would your attitude be like in a town like this.
If you read and comprehended my reply fully you would realize that I am not bashing policemen, it's their politically motivated bosses that I take issue with.
Yes, there are high-crime areas throughout our country and the police that patrol those areas probably feel that they are in a war zone. Having seen some of the worst of what humans are capable of in far off lands I know I wouldn't want to see that every time I went to work so, again, I get it...
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Thanks, understood. I think I know where your coming from. This is a complicated deal that you are talking about and I think dwells deeper than just the supervisors alone.
Here's my .02........I feel each and every situation a police man encounters should be handled case specific and that within itself carries alot of variables. In any given situation, a policeman is placed in an authoritive position right off the bat. The maturity and experience of that policeman will dictate the direction of that given situation. There are many youngsters that become policeman, placed in an authoritive position, and simply aren't mature or experienced enough to be in the position that they are in. In short, what I'm trying to say is that yes they may have over aggressive supervisors, but when they are out in the field and it is time to make a judgement call they need to put there big boy pants on and handle it appropriately. Being aggressive 100% of the time isn't appropriate. Especially towards law abiding citizens.
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