Debating on new project.....70 Roadrunner

[gerno]

Vince@MSperfab - its a nice car but don't get sucked into that car guy disease man. Finallize that Camaro brother!!

Too late, I've had an issue for a long time now.... The Camaro is on the road and at some sort of track event a lot. Question comes is it better to always "improve" the Camaro or start a new ride...


DTM Racing - That Road Runner looks like a lot of work. IMO, Free to $500.00 would be my price range on it. I don't see a panel that doesn't need work.

I agree with your assessment. Only issue is that it's tough to find a Roadrunner these days. There are a few other projects I've seen but even in pieces sellers are asking crazy prices ($10-15K)

[John510]

Originally Posted by gerno

I agree with your assessment. Only issue is that it's tough to find a Roadrunner these days. There are a few other projects I've seen but even in pieces sellers are asking crazy prices ($10-15K)

If hes asking 4K and the others are 10-15K then I would jump on it before someone beats you to it.

[gerno]

Originally Posted by John510

If hes asking 4K and the others are 10-15K then I would jump on it before someone beats you to it.

I could be out of like with my assessment of the prices I am seeing in the market. I welcome any more intelligent opinions out there concerning the price to get a good Mopar project car.

[hp2]

I'd say that price depends on the options listed on the fender tag. You did ask for a picture of that didn't you? 1970 is when options proliferated the Mopar model lines. If this has a list of desireable options, that could justify the price. However, here is the conundrum with that, desireable options up the value of the car if you go the restoration route. If you heavily modify it, then you may be better of buying a better condition Satellite for less up front dough. If this is a very base car with a 383 3spd tag( yes that was the standard trans) and no options, then that price is a bit high. I recently picked up a 70 Road Runner, 440 six pak, air grabber, 4 speed in almost the exact same condition for $3500, for a point of comparison.

Also, having just done a Camaro, be prepared for sticker shock. Building the mopar will easily cost 3-5x as much. There is a lot of repro metal out there and a selection of aftermarket suspension sustems as well, but the choice of vendors are significantly less and this impacts the discounts you can negotiate.

For a quick assesment of market values of Satellite, Road Runners, and GTXs, hop over to moparts.com and browse the 1970 and earlier B body classifieds. You can find everything from basket cases, to proejcts to completed cars. I also believe there was a completely restored, running, Air Grabber, 383 Road Runner on protouring.com for $25k. Compared to some other ones out there, that is a screaming deal.

[gerno]

Very good points on the options of the car. I was excited thinking about a potential new project and did not even ask about the fender tag. I followed up with the seller and apparently the fender tag is no longer on the car at all. This makes me question the car.

I'll drag my trailer with me to check out the car this weekend with the intent of a very low offer if anything at all. I'll also check out the sites you noted to see what else is out there.

Now that my initial excitement has worn off I'm using my head again. I really want a Roadrunner as my next project but I'll make sure I find the right car to start with.

[hp2]

The fender tag and build sheets are two very important parts of the pedigree for those mopars to justify pricing. Without them, it is just a vin. However, the vin can tell you something about it. If he has given that to you, try running it through a decoder. It will verify if its a real Road Runner, engine size, and vin sequence. There should be a matching sequence of the last 6 vin digits on the radiator core support and along the drivers side trunk rail. If any of these don't match, you've got issues. http://www.stockmopar.com/mopar-vin-decoder.php

I notice in the pics there are a few other mopars scattered around the property. That means this guy should know the value of these documentable items and you may be able to talk him down to a decent price without them.

Something I've always like about that model was the top of the quarter panel line. I think it would lend its self very well to an eliptical insert to widen it out for a massive tire while still looking almost stock. Only way to notice it would be to park it next to an unmodified version.

[gerno]

HP2 - thanks for the link. The owner is going to send me over the VIN later tonight and I'll dig a little deeper. I also agree about adding some flares and making the body lines a little custom. I just need to learn how to do it myself......

Ratman - I'm all up to date and have confirmed it's no issue from beating myself up on other projects.