1969 Torino

[FETorino]

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal

You have front axles? Man I gotta get over to the shop and see this!

OK fact checker you know what I mean.

It's like referring to the KPI, King Pin Inclination of your spindle when you don't have a Kingpin.

You can still find reference to portions of a spindle as an axle

Originally Posted by intocarss

I thought you were running dual quads??

JerDog. Eventually.

I ran both setups on the dyno. My 701hp on E85 was made with a single 4150.

Back to back on Gas the first weekend on the dyno we got close to 25hp more with the dual quad over a single Dominator and about 35hp more than the single 4150. I don't own, or have access to a pair to borrow, of properly set up dual E85 carbs so I don't know what the E85 single vs dual quad hp difference would be. I'm sure the duals would also make more hp on E85. The intake is just a better overall design.

One day when the bleeding of $$ slows I'll build a matched set of E85s for the dual quad and it will go on the car. Just for the cool factor if nothing else. For now I'm just running my single 4150.

[intocarss]

Originally Posted by FETorino

OK fact checker you know what I mean.

It's like referring to the KPI, King Pin Inclination of your spindle when you don't have a Kingpin.

You can still find reference to portions of a spindle as an axle





JerDog. Eventually.

I ran both setups on the dyno. My 701hp on E85 was made with a single 4150.

Back to back on Gas the first weekend on the dyno we got close to 25hp more with the dual quad over a single Dominator and about 35hp more than the single 4150. I don't own, or have access to a pair to borrow, of properly set up dual E85 carbs so I don't know what the E85 single vs dual quad hp difference would be. I'm sure the duals would also make more hp on E85. The intake is just a better overall design.

One day when the bleeding of $$ slows I'll build a matched set of E85s for the dual quad and it will go on the car. Just for the cool factor if nothing else. For now I'm just running my single 4150.

REAL MEN TUNE WITH A SCREWDRIVER,,,, NOT A LAPTOP

[INTMD8]

Originally Posted by intocarss

REAL MEN TUNE WITH A SCREWDRIVER,,,,

Yep, they also hunted mastadon. AKA cave men.

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by INTMD8

Yep, they also hunted mastadon. AKA cave men.

Ouch….. Well…. that's not going to buff out.

[Sieg]

Originally Posted by INTMD8

Yep, they also hunted mastadon. AKA cave men.

If my tuning screw driver's hard drive fails I can fix it with a file.

[intocarss]

Originally Posted by INTMD8

Yep, they also hunted mastadon. AKA cave men.

WHAT!! NO WIFI HERE, NOW WHAT DO I DO

[FETorino]

Originally Posted by Vegas69

It's like arguing that the outhouse is superior to indoor plumbing.

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal

And for the record, there is no such thing as an EFI weenie.

Originally Posted by intocarss

REAL MEN TUNE WITH A SCREWDRIVER,,,, NOT A LAPTOP

Originally Posted by INTMD8

Yep, they also hunted mastadon. AKA cave men.

Originally Posted by Sieg

If my tuning screw driver's hard drive fails I can fix it with a file.

Originally Posted by intocarss

WHAT!! NO WIFI HERE, NOW WHAT DO I DO

Sometimes you just want to get out of your comfy surroundings and camp, sit by a fire; bike, hike or surf the surroundings. Rough it for a few days just live a simple basic life and unwind.

I don't remember saying a carb was always better than EFI but sometimes, maybe in those times of seeking enlightenment by living simple, outdoor plumbing or a carb is superior.

To me that is what a hot rod or PT car is about. It's simple, raw, obnoxious in ways, and quirkey at times. Something you can tinker with with the simplest of tools and experience to dial in.


If I was motivated to build a comfy luxury cruiser like a 57 Caddie I'm sure I'd opt for FI. But I am not building a daily driver or something I even want to be refined and smooth.

There is something about dialing in your 4bbl or pair of 4bbls that I like.

There is something to be said about the sound of a NA motor breathing through those carbs.

All of it is part of what I want from a PT car.

I don't wear a digital watch either even though it's more efficient.

Ron having EFI doesn't make you a weenie but there are EFI weenies. If you can't tune your own but profess it is better than a carb in every way you may be showing symtoms

So I did get a chance to clean up my tunnel cutting and remove all the dash and wiring. Even with the motor set this far back you can see I have plenty of room for the new footwells. There is also a bunch of room up under the dash.

This will make building the cage way easier. More so for Brett than me since he will be doing al the welding on the cage.

It may not look a lot different than the previous photo but it is progress.

[Flash68]

Originally Posted by FETorino

To me that is what a hot rod or PT car is about. It's simple, raw, obnoxious in ways, and quirkey at times. Something you can tinker with with the simplest of tools and experience to dial in.


If I was motivated to build a comfy luxury cruiser like a 57 Caddie I'm sure I'd opt for FI. But I am not building a daily driver or something I even want to be refined and smooth.

There is something about dialing in your 4bbl or pair of 4bbls that I like.

There is something to be said about the sound of a NA motor breathing through those carbs.

All of it is part of what I want from a PT car.

Once in a blue moon I just gotta agree with you.

[Sieg]

Originally Posted by FETorino

To me that is what a hot rod or PT car is about. It's simple, raw, obnoxious in ways, and quirkey at times. Something you can tinker with with the simplest of tools and experience to dial in.


If I was motivated to build a comfy luxury cruiser like a 57 Caddie I'm sure I'd opt for FI. But I am not building a daily driver or something I even want to be refined and smooth.

There is something about dialing in your 4bbl or pair of 4bbls that I like.

There is something to be said about the sound of a NA motor breathing through those carbs.

All of it is part of what I want from a PT car.

Originally Posted by Flash68

Once in a blue moon I just gotta agree with you.

+1

Very well said.


Missing the wood grain vinyl and vent look yet?

[INTMD8]

Originally Posted by FETorino

I don't remember saying a carb was always better than EFI but sometimes, maybe in those times of seeking enlightenment by living simple, outdoor plumbing or a carb is superior.

I tune efi cars for a living, of course I have to bust balls when the carb comments start flying around!

Hell it was just 15 short years ago I was cruising around in my 70 Chevelle with a dual quad roots blown big block. It had some good qualities......like......well.....8mpg