Greg.......... you gonna have one of these in the new house?

[GregWeld]

Just for "interest" in shop building and wild spaces and the kinds of things we like to do (all of us).... The plan for the new house here had about 4500 square feet of shop space UNDER the house... tall enough to take in the "rig" etc.

Well --- as it turns out -- to do that we'd have to haul off 20,000 cubic yards of dirt... that's 2,000 dump truck loads -- and where they'd have to haul it and then make that a round trip -- would equal 46,000 "truck miles". There's even more too it - but that gets complicated to explain. So that "shop" is O U T.....


We're now designing a more normal shop what will be a separate building on the property. A lot less dirt to be moved... and a lot less concrete... The other one just became an OMG...

[HEEP]

For some reason, I can just see you going Really.....???????

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by HEEP

For some reason, I can just see you going Really.....???????

I always knew there was going to be an X / Y axis of cost to build versus buying a commercial building -- or "whatever" other alternative. But in order to get a real bonafide bid for construction -- we had to have all the plans and engineering done --- so we forged ahead in order to get all that detail.

The problems with it became "many"... but we continued on.


The excavation bid --- and the concrete bid.... are just astronomical. I could buy FOUR complete tractor trailer rigs like mine and leave them in various locations -- and have them stocked with 2 cars each --- and I'd still be saving money.


I have them drawing up a 2000 square foot two story shop ( have to have a man cave area) where we don't need to move nearly as much heaven and earth ---- and it's not under the house -- so the walls etc don't have to carry that whole load.

We don't always get what we want.... :>)

[SSLance]

That just goes to show Greg, that just because you can do something doesn't always mean that you should.

I know you are disappointed but I also know that common sense must have prevailed in this and the whole project will be better in the end because of it. You did your due diligence in collecting all of the facts beforehand and that's the only way smart decisions can be made.

Good luck with Plan B, I'm sure it'll be just as awesome, just different is all.

[Ketzer]

Not ideal but what about building the mancave offsite? Go to an industrial area in town and build on flat ground? Seems like that setup has gotten popular of late with some impressive results.


Jeff-

[GregWeld]

Jeff ---


I've had a year to think about all the "what if's" and like most everything - it all depends on the person and their particular situation.

I can buy a great building about 10 miles down the road for 1/3rd of what the excavation and cement bids were... but then I'm having to get in the car - go down somewhere and blah blah blah.

My trade off is to have the shop mere feet from my favorite chair... I'm old... and not getting any younger... I like the convenience of just being "home". I'd rather have a smaller shop at home than a bigger shop 10 miles down the road. The larger shop under the house was mostly taken up by truck and trailer storage. So the net shop space wasn't much larger than what I have now.

I'll just figure out where to store the rig... which isn't used very much - and if it was 10 miles down the road - no biggie.

[Stuart Adams]

Should be cool. At the end of the day everyone has a ceiling for what is reasonable.


Looking forward to seeing this puppy go up.

[Sparks67]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

Well --- as it turns out -- to do that we'd have to haul off 20,000 cubic yards of dirt... that's 2,000 dump truck loads -- and where they'd have to haul it and then make that a round trip -- would equal 46,000 "truck miles". There's even more too it - but that gets complicated to explain. So that "shop" is O U T.....

Some people just give the dirt away, so you have the people move it out for you. Just rent a loader for a week and load them up. Anyway, this guy has your garage beat!

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/82863230/ (Full video)

[GregWeld]

Yeah -- he needs a garage like that for all his mini-vans

Originally Posted by Sparks67

Some people just give the dirt away, so you have the people move it out for you. Just rent a loader for a week and load them up. Anyway, this guy has your garage beat!

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/82863230/ (Full video)

[glassman]

he has another something in there he's not showing....or that was a colosal waste of coin. But i heard him say something earlier about having millions of dollars of cars down there....