1969 Camaro - Quick Ratio Steering Box, which one?

[68LS1]

i am doing some research for a friend who wants to upgrade his suspension on his 69 Camaro. One item is to remove the vague feeling original power steering box. This is a list of available boxes I have come up with.

Hotchkis - $599.95
http://www.hotchkis.net/delphi-600-s...ring-gear.html

Global West - $579.99
http://www.globalwest.net/1967-1968-...obal-west.html

Flaming River - $615.00
http://www.flamingriver.com/index.ph...1/s0002/FR1560

AGR Performance Resto Steering Box - $387.97
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/agr-492117

Speedtech ATS 670
http://www.speedtechperformance.com/...prod/prd71.htm

DSE $595.00
http://www.detroitspeed.com/Steering...ring-gear.html

Lee manufacturing
http://lee-powersteering.com/steering-gears.htm

Am I right in assuming any of the 600/670 series need a different rag joint coupler? And power steering fittings?

The Global West & Flaming River look like the same item, with Flaming River having a billet cap?

I used an AGR 14 - 1 box on my C10 and it fitted like factory. The one listed looks like an original 700 series.

Any feedback on those listed would be most helpful, or any other suggestions.

thanks

[Spiffav8]

I ran the Lee's setup in my last 67 and really liked it. Zero issues. Had the car not come with it, I would have ran the ATS/Speedtech setup. I would have zero issue running either one today.

[David Pozzi]

I would go with the ATS/Lee as first choice.
Second choice would be any 670 box.
Third would be the AGR, it's not a 670 so will have a little more play but still better than the stock feel boxes.

[OBeer-WAN-Kenobi]

Does he need something quicker than 12.7:1? If not just try a re-manufactured 3rd gen box for like $150.

I put one on mine and with completely new steering components it feels great.

You'll need a different rag joint, and hoses (metric fittings on the 3rd gen box) but other than that it's bolt in.

[intocarss]

Originally Posted by OBeer-WAN-Kenobi

Does he need something quicker than 12.7:1? If not just try a re-manufactured 3rd gen box for like $150.

I put one on mine and with completely new steering components it feels great.

You'll need a different rag joint, and hoses (metric fittings on the 3rd gen box) but other than that it's bolt in.

Lee sells the hose adaptor fittings so you can run your rubber hoses. I believe he sells them with or without the rag joint

http://lee-powersteering.com/rebuild-misc.htm

[tubbed69]

I used the AGR boxes a couple of times and they were great for the money,very simple,power steering hoses sre same as factory.

[Sieg]

I have a Lee 12.7:1 box with their firmest valving and love it, no regrets at all.

[68LS1]

Thanks for the response guys, much appreciated.

Probably should have mentioned car is 100% street driven, very unlikely to see any track time.

[David Pozzi]

I would NOT do a faster ratio than 12.7:1

[OBeer-WAN-Kenobi]

Originally Posted by intocarss

Lee sells the hose adaptor fittings so you can run your rubber hoses. I believe he sells them with or without the rag joint

http://lee-powersteering.com/rebuild-misc.htm

Yeah, the sell the correct rag joint also. I tried to order from them but had some difficulty on that front. I won't go into it because I think they were just extra busy at the time.

Anyhoo, I just ordered the rag joint from the local autoparts store, made the pressure hose out of PTFE lined braided stainless and bought the oring fittings and stuff from Jegs. I think the total cost on my 3rd gen box conversion (turned in an old steering box as a core) was around $200.

Originally Posted by 68LS1

Thanks for the response guys, much appreciated.

Probably should have mentioned car is 100% street driven, very unlikely to see any track time.

I'd definitely do the re-manufactured 3rd gen box then. That'll save a lot of money and he should be really happy with it.