...

Go Back   Lateral-g Forums > Technical Discussions > Race Cars and Modern Pro-Street
User Name
Password



Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-06-2014, 04:53 PM
Ron Sutton's Avatar
Ron Sutton Ron Sutton is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Folsom, CA
Posts: 2,422
Thanks: 45
Thanked 35 Times in 26 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GregWeld View Post
That TRD --- derated.... oh yeah!



What's that thing worth 75 grand?

Gosh ... back when they were new & the hot package to run ... they were $55,000 ... a race ... on a lease deal. Now, they don't run that engine anymore ... so a guy can probably get a nearly new/fresh one for $20-25k. Of course worn out junk is out there for a lot less.

But rebuilds are killer. Too often & too much! Hey ... that sounds familiar.



__________________
Ron Sutton Race Technology
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-06-2014, 05:25 PM
Sieg's Avatar
Sieg Sieg is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Pacific Northwet
Posts: 8,034
Thanks: 33
Thanked 101 Times in 41 Posts
Default

Ouch!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-06-2014, 05:48 PM
Vegas69's Avatar
Vegas69 Vegas69 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 8,692
Thanks: 87
Thanked 215 Times in 120 Posts
Default

I'd say more cubes so you can make it less rowdy. A quality engine should go a season and then need maintenance, not rebuilt. I wouldn't want to give up much rpm for road racing. How tight are you spinning it?
__________________
Todd
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-06-2014, 05:45 PM
GregWeld's Avatar
GregWeld GregWeld is offline
Lateral-g Supporting Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Scottsdale, AriDzona
Posts: 20,741
Thanks: 504
Thanked 1,080 Times in 388 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Sutton View Post

Gosh ... back when they were new & the hot package to run ... they were $55,000 ... a race ... on a lease deal. Now, they don't run that engine anymore ... so a guy can probably get a nearly new/fresh one for $20-25k. Of course worn out junk is out there for a lot less.

But rebuilds are killer. Too often & too much! Hey ... that sounds familiar.






It gets old real quick!!


Pete is here in Sun Valley -- and came down to the shop today. He was having all manor of valve train issues with his 347 (same cubic inch as mine) and finally put a 6300 chip in the MSD and hasn't had any problems since. Maybe it's all my doing IDK.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-06-2014, 05:50 PM
Vegas69's Avatar
Vegas69 Vegas69 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 8,692
Thanks: 87
Thanked 215 Times in 120 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GregWeld View Post
It gets old real quick!!


Pete is here in Sun Valley -- and came down to the shop today. He was having all manor of valve train issues with his 347 (same cubic inch as mine) and finally put a 6300 chip in the MSD and hasn't had any problems since. Maybe it's all my doing IDK.
If I can spin a big block 6800 countless times, that little small block should do it all day.
__________________
Todd
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-06-2014, 05:59 PM
GregWeld's Avatar
GregWeld GregWeld is offline
Lateral-g Supporting Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Scottsdale, AriDzona
Posts: 20,741
Thanks: 504
Thanked 1,080 Times in 388 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vegas69 View Post
I'd say more cubes so you can make it less rowdy. A quality engine should go a season and then need maintenance, not rebuilt. I wouldn't want to give up much rpm for road racing. How tight are you spinning it?



I think I have a 7000 chip in the MSD -- but it might be less -- and I've NEVER hit the limiter. The Lotus I hit all the time - because I can't hear it with my new helmet (has communications built in and the ears are quiet as hell).



Quote:
Originally Posted by Vegas69 View Post
If I can spin a big block 6800 countless times, that little small block should do it all day.


I think that motor - with it's titanium valve train - and built by a top notch builder -- should run for 4 years of track days doing nothing but adjusting the solid lifters.... So either I'm doing something to it - damned if I know what - or there's some geometry issue that isn't being caught. Thus a fresh set of eyeballs will be in order. Unless I broke it real good.... and in that case a new motor will fit the bill --- or be on my bill! LOL
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-06-2014, 06:17 PM
Vegas69's Avatar
Vegas69 Vegas69 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 8,692
Thanks: 87
Thanked 215 Times in 120 Posts
Default

First thing that comes to mind is the titanium valves are causing you problems. Seems overkill for a small block with a 7k chip. If it doesn't have shaft mounted rockers, that's a must. I'd say the titanium valves warrant setting the valves HOT. Who knows what happens at road racing temps. I'm just throwing things out there. Me, I'd put a less radical combo in it or let Ron go through the entire engine.
__________________
Todd
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-06-2014, 07:11 PM
GregWeld's Avatar
GregWeld GregWeld is offline
Lateral-g Supporting Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Scottsdale, AriDzona
Posts: 20,741
Thanks: 504
Thanked 1,080 Times in 388 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vegas69 View Post
First thing that comes to mind is the titanium valves are causing you problems. Seems overkill for a small block with a 7k chip. If it doesn't have shaft mounted rockers, that's a must. I'd say the titanium valves warrant setting the valves HOT. Who knows what happens at road racing temps. I'm just throwing things out there. Me, I'd put a less radical combo in it or let Ron go through the entire engine.



It has shaft rockers.....
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-06-2014, 06:49 PM
clill's Avatar
clill clill is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 3,640
Thanks: 77
Thanked 1,961 Times in 680 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GregWeld View Post
It gets old real quick!!


Pete is here in Sun Valley -- and came down to the shop today. He was having all manor of valve train issues with his 347 (same cubic inch as mine) and finally put a 6300 chip in the MSD and hasn't had any problems since. Maybe it's all my doing IDK.
347 ????
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-06-2014, 07:12 PM
GregWeld's Avatar
GregWeld GregWeld is offline
Lateral-g Supporting Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Scottsdale, AriDzona
Posts: 20,741
Thanks: 504
Thanked 1,080 Times in 388 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by clill View Post
347 ????


I think that's what it is.... but damned if I really know.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:33 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright Lateral-g.net