NorCal Shelby Mini Nats - Aug 2nd and 3rd

[Sieg]

Originally Posted by Chassisworks

While I agree 100% with all of Ron's points, the blue Mustang went off track with all parts intact. The wreck caused the balljoint to break, not the other way around. We spoke to the customer a day or so after the fact.

Off track not due to component failure was my understanding. There was grass pinched in the rim that indicated to me that an impact caused the ball joint to separate.

Carl did your customer mention where he went off at?

[Vince@Meanstreets]

that car broke from the impact and not impact due to breakage. Hard to prepare for that. Is that Griggs equipment? they are pretty sturdy.

I agree Greg, everything needs to be stepped up several notches.

edit, sorry, missed the last page.

Originally Posted by GregWeld

THIS is exactly why the Mustang was scheduled in to get some upgrades. Ron Sutton will do the math for you (you PAY HIM) and show you why you shouldn't be running 1965 STOCK ball joints and bearings and spindles --- when you're also running fat sticky Hoosiers etc. The stock stuff just isn't up to the task....

Racing is expensive (we really don't race but that's the best description) - it gets way more expensive quickly when your car comes off track on a rollback. I'd rather be a little proactive and fix it before it happens.

Here's the other thing... When your car works better (thank you Ron Sutton Race Technologies!) you go faster and harder... which puts even MORE stress on parts. The tire temps creep up - the brake temps creep up ----- and all that heat is put into the bearings and spindles... Why would a guy try to build an 800 hp motor - quadruple the tire sizes from stock - and not upgrade these other critical parts?

[Chassisworks]

I can't say anything about the poor guy's incident with 100% certainty as I am not the one who spoke to him. It sucks to see but it's better to bend a fender by breaking a small part than it is to bend the frame.

Everything else is fine as far AFAIK.

The spindles appear to be stock 65-66 style.

I dunno where he went off, Sieg. I figured you were there and would be able to tell me, haha! I notice the tires aren't anything particularly sticky so there are a lot of possibilities. I could speculate but that's the same as assuming and we all know how that works out.

I wish I could have been there, as I would have asked him, but stuff at home required my attention.

[Sieg]

Sorry you couldn't make, would have been nice to see you again.

The driver wasn't around so I couldn't get the good gossip. It had my curiosity because of the front impact below the bumper and the right rocker.......just couldn't figure out where that might have happened and not hit a wall too.

I remember looking at those tires and thinking they certainly didn't help and probably were the cause.

[clill]

I have the perfect solution Greg. I'll trade you straight across either my Dale Earnhart # 3 car or my Tony Stewart # 20 car for the Mustang. You won't have to screw with all that outdated unsafe stuff that we have all been running for years and you will have big brakes, tires, dry sump, big safety cage, fire system etc.

[mdprovee]

Originally Posted by Sieg

Spotted this beauty at McGee Motorsports.

A buddy of mine, Michael Thompson is a partner there. Nice place.

[DBasher]

Nice floor Charlie.

[Sieg]

Originally Posted by mdprovee

A buddy of mine, Michael Thompson is a partner there. Nice place.

From my observations they really understand servicing their customers too!

[Sieg]

Originally Posted by DBasher

Nice floor Charlie.

Run of the mill museum finish.

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by clill

I have the perfect solution Greg. I'll trade you straight across either my Dale Earnhart # 3 car or my Tony Stewart # 20 car for the Mustang. You won't have to screw with all that outdated unsafe stuff that we have all been running for years and you will have big brakes, tires, dry sump, big safety cage, fire system etc.

I hate Orange (well... and yellow too) and can't find it in my heart to drive a dead guys car (that's just bad juju). So you're cut. Besides -- I STOLE the Mustang and you're never going to recover from it. And Jack Mauer will double my money when I'm ready to sell. <where's the tongue sticking out icon?>