Counterfeit Parts, be an informed buyer.

[Build-It-Break-it]

Originally Posted by PBarkley

This is the moral battle I'm fighting right now with my engine build. The only stroker cranks out there for the Pontiac V8's are all from the same place in China, and Eagle/Scat/Ohio Crank all use the same supplier.

I don't want that crap in my car, but what to do when it's the only option?

You have to suck it up and buy it. If people don't like China products then we couldn't use our phones, computers, tvs, cars, toilets, refrigerators, shoes,car seats for babies etc etc. There's no going around it. I know it sucks but it's the world we live in. The masses don't want to pay American production prices which is why jobs are shipped overseas. ...

[BMR Sales]

Originally Posted by Build-It-Break-it

If people don't like China products then we couldn't use our phones, computers, tvs, cars, toilets, refrigerators, shoes,car seats for babies etc etc. There's no going around it. I know it sucks but it's the world we live in. The masses don't want to pay American production prices which is why jobs are shipped overseas. ...

I see your Point, but the Companies that are making the ^ Above ^ Products are Designing and making those products under a minimum of Quality Control and have some type of support after a sale. They are just using Cheap Labor & Tax Loopholes.

You can't really compare that to Counterfeit Parts or Parts that are Copied & Sold. Who knows what you bought!

The last thing is we aren't the Masses - we should be the last Hold-Outs since we are driving Old American Iron!

[Build-It-Break-it]

Originally Posted by BMR Sales

You can't really compare that to Counterfeit Parts or Parts that are Copied & Sold. Who knows what you bought!

I wasn't comparing counterfeit parts to product overseas. He was stating that the product he wanted to purchase was a Crank outsourced by the vendors to China. If he wants the product from those vendors and they're built in China then there's no way around avoiding buying from the China supplier. They get our business regardless if we like it are not.

I do agree to try to buy American whenever possible but it's definitely not always possible.

[PBarkley]

Originally Posted by BMR Sales

I see your Point, but the Companies that are making the ^ Above ^ Products are Designing and making those products under a minimum of Quality Control and have some type of support after a sale. They are just using Cheap Labor & Tax Loopholes.

You can't really compare that to Counterfeit Parts or Parts that are Copied & Sold. Who knows what you bought!

The last thing is we aren't the Masses - we should be the last Hold-Outs since we are driving Old American Iron!

Agreed. All the more reason why I research everything I'm buying. I'm actually looking at buying wheels from a local upstart company here in Georgia that is making a real top notch product, simply b/c I know my money is going right to the local economy.

[71RS/SS396]

Originally Posted by PBarkley

Agreed. All the more reason why I research everything I'm buying. I'm actually looking at buying wheels from a local upstart company here in Georgia that is making a real top notch product, simply b/c I know my money is going right to the local economy.

You might want research the wheel company further, the vast majority of the barrels for wheels are made in China. Formula 43 is one of the few that actually make their own barrels.

[preston]

This is the moral battle I'm fighting right now with my engine build. The only stroker cranks out there for the Pontiac V8's are all from the same place in China, and Eagle/Scat/Ohio Crank all use the same supplier.

I don't want that crap in my car, but what to do when it's the only option?

You can always have a custom crankshaft made from billet by Sonny Leonard or other companines like that ? I'm not sure they ahve to be billet, and they may still need a certain forging to get started otherwise I don't know much about that level of build, but I do know a custom crankshaft will probably start at $2k. But it will be one fine crankshaft.

[PBarkley]

Originally Posted by 71RS/SS396

You might want research the wheel company further, the vast majority of the barrels for wheels are made in China. Formula 43 is one of the few that actually make their own barrels.

I believe their barrels are from BBS, but I could be wrong about that.

[Ron in SoCal]

Originally Posted by PBarkley

I believe their barrels are from BBS, but I could be wrong about that.

Travis would tell you otherwise

[PBarkley]

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal

Travis would tell you otherwise

OH! Sorry, I meant the company I was talking about based in Atlanta haha.

My bad for the confusion!