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Old 09-04-2006, 01:52 PM
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I'd personally prefer a motor like JP put in his nova, a stroked NA LS2 or whatever. To be honest my daily driver is a turbo, its a slow-poke 87 nissan 300zx 3.0 six cylinder with a little T3 turbo at about 10PSI with no intercooler. I like the turbos and the car is fun with a 5 speed and posi.

You are taking this the wrong way though I think. I am not critisizing anyone. I put the 454 in my car because it makes good hp without any add-ons. I like big cubes. I've only driven the car a handfull of times(not really tuned either) and it was fast! But it was managable. Had a smooth power delivery up until about 6,800 rpm(scared to go higher on an unsorted new motor) It didn't kick out sideways at 80 mphs unexpectantly, although a gear change could possibly change that, and it is getting different gears.

I'm probably right at about 600hp, prob a little more. I couldn't imagine trying to get on it with 1000hp on the street. Just seems like trying to keep the car in control would be more trouble and less fun than something with 5-600hp that you could enjoy more with the tires sticking. Although if I did have 1000hp on tap, it would be fun to turn up the boost once in awhile just for ****s and giggles.

But honestly I just see cars getting built over to the max so far out, that it seems a little absurd. Most cars would be much more fuctional and FASTER with a more well rounded system. I would bet that stielows latest car would be faster than the mule, due to the more linear and smooth power delivery from the LS7, rather than the massive TTmotor in the Mule. I think charlie even said that the Mule was almost too slippery on the track. However I do recognize that a lot of the fun of this hobby is having too much! Not everyone is concerned with absolute function. I know this and that's cool! hey, its your car build it however you'd like and do whatever makes you enjoy it even more, but I thought a good post like this with the in's AND out's of building something with so much power might help some people

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Old 09-04-2006, 02:23 PM
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I actually edited that post, and added a bit about the mule v the new camaro X. I think that is a good comparison of what I am talking about.

You have the Mule with the TT 1000HP small block, and then you have the camaro X with the NA 500hp(underated) LS7. Which do you think would be easier, faster, and more fun to drive? Obviously that is a subjective question and is going to vary from person to person, but I would take the X way before the mule. The LS7 will put out 600hp, get 20mpg, and have a smooth idle, and will also be a rippin motor with a smoother linear power delivery. But hey differnet strokes for different folks I guess. But if you look at the real purpose of any of this stuff that we put on the cars, the fundemental reason for all of this $$$ is performance. I think it would be hard to argue that a skilled driver could do more with the camaro X than the Mule due to the Mules over-abundance of power, even with it detuned. There must be a reason why Mark didn't build another TT machine.

I'm not saying that one thing is better than another even though it might sound like it. And I understand you can Detune a TT motor to make it more docile, just kinda exploring what having 1000hp is about. Thanks for not taking it as an argument and seeing it for more as a discussion
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