Floaters: Mod-Lite, Strange Pro-Touring, Chassisworks Pro-Touring?

[MillerBuilt]

Blown353

Also please consider the closest to NON proprietary solution on the market. https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=48782


Ok, maybe a little proprietary . But the ONLY two proprietary parts that are in my proposed solution are the Steel Weld-on Flanges (which you cannot hurt or wear out), and the axles (which are of HyTuf material and nearly bullet proof, and do not see anyone needing to ever replace these),,,, other than that, you can pick up ALL other parts over the counter at either any GM dealer, or nearly any auto parts store on any given Sunday and bolt on! Compare that with ANY other offerings for never having to be married to the supplier of proprietary parts.

Please note that my offering/OE Hub Unit requires ZERO modification, and ZERO periodic adjustment/monitoring as the other similar offerings you mentioned above.

And not that you have not mentioned some great solutions above, but you did mention proprietary being a little concern so figured I would touch base on that.

As for packaging you cannot beet this C6 set-up and will not be an issue with caliper clearance in relation to frame rail, as it is a very well packaged system.

I also would like to point out the proven and very safe e-brake as well, because that is something that sets this set-up aside from others too.

And for the record, you can run ANY brake caliper/rotor on this set-up that was intended for a C5/6 Corvette and you are not limited to OEM if you prefer others such as Wilwood.

Lastly, I would not lose any sleep on the rotor/caliper NOT hanging outside the wheel as is the case on the circle track type floaters, although it is not hurting anything, it certainly is not necessary.

Thanks,

Jay

[T_Raven]

Good info Ron. I've wanted to use an aluminum HD-9 housing but I never thought about an issue with heat compared to the nodular case.

[Ron Sutton]

Originally Posted by T_Raven

Good info Ron. I've wanted to use an aluminum HD-9 housing but I never thought about an issue with heat compared to the nodular case.

A few tips from experience on 9" 3rd Members to share ...
1. There are 3 carrier bearing sizes, but we never run the small one, so we only care about 2 sizes ... the 3.062" & 3.250. 3.062" is for 31 spline axles. 3.250 is for 35 spline axles ... typically for drag racing & Off Road Trucks.

2. Strange offers 3 basic case designs:
a. Aluminum HD
b. Nodular Iron HD
c. Nodular Iron Lite

You can see the Nodular Iron cases on my store page HERE.
You can see the $249 is the lite case. We run these on most street & race applications unless the power is above 800 hp. Frankly ... we run them on engines 900hp+, because they're the best overall weight to strength 3rd member. Applications where power is above 800 hp and/or the car owner cares more about durability than weight ... run the $329 version. There is about 9# weight difference.

3. Pinion Supports
The "Daytona Pinion Support is a no brainer upgrade. It allows larger bearings to be run on the pinion ... and the pinion NEEDS these larger bearings. This does not require any special ring & pinion. Just normal 9" Ford gears. But the aluminum Daytona Pinion Supports are notorious for expanding & allowing the pinion seal to push out. For this reason we do not run the aluminum Daytona Pinion Support. We only run the iron Daytona pinion support. You can see them HERE.

Best wishes.

[cjfirstgen]

The Strange Pro HD aluminum center section is a much different animal then what is being referenced as an option for the OP. The Pro HD has a special channel to feed oil to the pinion bearing for cooling and the seal is retained by a snap ring so it is unable to push out. Furthermore with 3.25" pinion bearing or for 35 spline axles carries a lifetime warranty. No need for concern of this third member and its longevity. Again this is not your normal aluminum center section.

[Build-It-Break-it]

Hey Ron, with the Speedway floater mod lite rear end would it make sense to upgrade to 35 spline axles on the diff. side even tho the drive plate is smaller on the mod lite compared to the grand national.

Would the drive plate on high horse power cars give first on the mod lite at let's say 900hp ?

Ahmad

[Ron Sutton]

Originally Posted by Build-It-Break-it

Hey Ron, with the Speedway floater mod lite rear end would it make sense to upgrade to 35 spline axles on the diff. side even tho the drive plate is smaller on the mod lite compared to the grand national.

Would the drive plate on high horse power cars give first on the mod lite at let's say 900hp ?

Ahmad

Good questions. I'll do my best to answer.

a. All common floaters use the same OD & Spline out at the drive plate. Moser, Baer, Curry, Speedway Engineering, etc. are all the same size & spline at the drive plate. This is the same OD & Spline for NASCAR, trans Am, etc.

b. So when you're upsizing the spline in the Diff ... the spline at the drive plate doesn't change.

c. The axle OD is bigger with 35 spline axles. So it is a stronger axle.

d. IMHO the 31 spline is plenty strong for what we do & well above what we do. Again, NASCAR with 900 hp engines, 10" slicks & 3500# ... as well as Trans Am, etc ... run 31 spline axles. IMHO the 35 spline is good move when you're drag racing, with a drag prepared suspension & slicks.

e. The power ... 900 hp or otherwise ... is a factor. But the greater factor is loading ... and that comes from grip. On street tires, I don't see any need for anything above 31 spline.

f. All axles break ... eventually. The floater style rear end is a safety measure to prevent catastrophe from a wheel & axle flange ripping off a car at speed. Plus they're made with better materials & stronger.

g. If you go 35 spline, you can not do that with a Mod Lite. The ID of the opening at the end where the hub rides is not large enough for the larger 35 spline axle. So when we go 35 spline at the diff ... you need to go with Speedway's "Grand National" rear end. It is $100 more & runs bigger bearings in the hubs.

Hope that helps.

[Build-It-Break-it]

Thank you for the reply Ron,that does clear up a lot for me. I knew the 35 spline axle was large but wasnt sure it would work with the mod lite rear. Now I can make a game plan on parts needed when I call you.

Ahmad

[T_Raven]

Originally Posted by cjfirstgen

The Strange Pro HD aluminum center section is a much different animal then what is being referenced as an option for the OP. The Pro HD has a special channel to feed oil to the pinion bearing for cooling and the seal is retained by a snap ring so it is unable to push out. Furthermore with 3.25" pinion bearing or for 35 spline axles carries a lifetime warranty. No need for concern of this third member and its longevity. Again this is not your normal aluminum center section.

Good point. I had to look and compare the Pro HD to the light one. I think the Pro HD would be fine for what I'd do with it.